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VOLUME THREE TRENDS IN POLICING Interviews with Police Leaders Across the Globe Edited by OTWIN MARENIN AND DILIP K. DAS International Police Executive Symposium Co-Publication Boca Raton London New York CRC Press is an imprint of the Taylor & Francis Group, an informa business © 2011 by Taylor and Francis Group, LLC CRC Press Taylor & Francis Group 6000 Broken Sound Parkway NW, Suite 300 Boca Raton, FL 33487-2742 © 2011 by Taylor and Francis Group, LLC CRC Press is an imprint of Taylor & Francis Group, an Informa business No claim to original U.S. Government works Printed in the United States of America on acid-free paper 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 International Standard Book Number: 978-1-4398-1924-1 (Hardback) This book contains information obtained from authentic and highly regarded sources. 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Police-community relations--Cross-cultural studies. 4. Police chiefs--Interviews. I. Marenin, Otwin. II. Title. HV7921.D38 2009 363.2--dc22 2008036396 Visit the Taylor & Francis Web site at http://www.taylorandfrancis.com and the CRC Press Web site at http://www.crcpress.com Contents Foreword ix Bruce Baker IntroductIon xi Otwin Marenin and dilip das contrIbutors xv chapter 1 IntervIew wIth commIssIoner mal hyde 1 interviewed By david Baker chapter 2 IntervIew wIth mag. maxImIlIan edelbacher (ret.), Federal polIce oF austrIa 23 interviewed By peter c. kratcOski chapter 3 IntervIew wIth major general FazIl balahasan oglu gulIyev, head, organIzatIonal-InspectIon department, azerbaIjan mInIstry oF Internal aFFaIrs 49 interviewed By rOnald d. Hunter chapter 4 IntervIew wIth muhIdIn alIc´, mInIster oF Internal aFFaIrs oF FederatIon oF bosnIa and herzegovIna 69 interviewed By JasMin aHić and nedŽad kOraJlić v vi Contents chapter 5 IntervIews wIth uros pena, dIrector oF polIce, republIc oF srpska, and goran lujIc, dIrector oF polIce, brcko dIstrIct, bosnIa-herzegovIna 79 interviews and transcriptiOns By laurence arMand FrencH and eldan MuJanOvić chapter 6 IntervIew wIth raymond kendall, honorary secretary general oF Interpol and chaIrman oF the center oF excellence on publIc securIty’s senIor advIsory board 113 interviewed By andré MatHeus e sOuza and GeOrGe HOwell chapter 7 IntervIew wIth dr. rodrIgo olIveIra, dIrector, general department oF specIalIzed polIce, cIvIl polIce, rIo de janeIro, brazIl 129 interviewed By andré MatHeus e sOuza and GeOrGe HOwell chapter 8 a conversatIon wIth colonel jean- etIenne elIon, congo natIonal polIce 141 interviewed By cHantal perras and dOMinique wisler chapter 9 IntervIew wIth leadIng polIce dIrector werner heInrIch schumm (ret.), Former deputy chIeF oF staFF oF the Federal border polIce oF the Federal republIc oF germany 161 interviewed By rOBert F. J. HarniscHMacHer chapter 10 IntervIew wIth lawrence cauchI, assIstant commIssIoner (admInIstratIon), malta polIce Force 187 interviewed By c. M. Jessica li chapter 11 IntervIew wIth general enrIque pérez casas, preventIve polIce, mexIco cIty, mexIco 205 interviewed By elena azaOla Contents vii chapter 12 IntervIew wIth alvaro vIzcaIno, academIc dIrector oF InstItuto nacIonal de cIencIas penales (InacIpe), mexIco cIty 219 interview and translatiOn By antHOny p. larOse, santiaGO iniGuez FlOres, sean Maddan, and MOrGan GaretH tanaFOn chapter 13 IntervIew wIth FrancIsco j. bautIsta, Founder and Former major commIssIoner oF the nIcaraguan natIonal polIce, managua, nIcaragua 241 interviewed By BrunO M. BaltOdanO chapter 14 IntervIew wIth chIeF oF polIce ragnar l. auglend, hordaland polIce dIstrIct, norway 259 interviewed By rune GlOMsetH chapter 15 a conversatIon wIth polIce chIeF superIntendent leocadIo st. cruz santIago, jr., dIrector oF the specIal actIon Force oF the phIlIppIne natIonal polIce 271 interviewed By MelcHOr c. de GuzMan chapter 16 IntervIew wIth Ivan djorovIc, head oF polIce, kragujevac, serbIa 289 interviewed By Branislav siMOnOvic chapter 17 IntervIew wIth edward sIkua, assIstant polIce commIssIoner, solomon Islands polIce Force 309 interviewed By Otwin Marenin chapter 18 an IntervIew wIth rIchard monk, polIce advIsor to nato and Independent consultant 329 interviewed By kate stOry-wHyte chapter 19 IntervIew wIth stephen whIte, Former chIeF polIce oFFIcer and current head oF “eujust lex” 351 interviewed By ricHard Mears viii Contents chapter 20 IntervIew wIth andrew hughes, polIce advIsor to the unIted natIons 375 interviewed By JaMes e. MccaBe suggested guIdelInes For IntervIewers 405 InternatIonal polIce executIve symposIum (Ipes) www.Ipes.InFo 413 Index 421 Foreword Bruce Baker in international police training circles, there is a widespread belief that policing by and large is the same worldwide: that the universal challenge is to maintain law and order and social peace in a lawful and humane way. But the narrative of universalism looks far less con- vincing under this volume’s close inspection of senior police managers across six continents. like its two predecessors in the series, this vol- ume of interviews demonstrates that context matters; indeed, it molds police services into very different organizations. Those with responsibility for state policing are revealed in these pages to be responsible for very diverse entities: some very large orga- nizations and some small (just 1,050 police officers for the solomon islands); some with the latest high-tech equipment and some with lit- tle or outdated equipment; some manage organizations where political interference is routine and others manage those where it is only spo- radic; some enjoy popular confidence and others are widely despised. These differences are not insignificant. and, again, the police forces described are not all doing the same activities. yes, there are thieves, brawlers, and prostitutes in rio, Oslo, sarajevo, Melbourne, Mexico city, kinshasa, and Honiara, but not all face private militia, ix x Foreword ethnic violence, large-scale no-go areas, and significant community- based policing organizations. and none has an identical culture to others. The senior managers of the developed and developing world may have attended the same courses, use the same police-speak, and wear uniforms, but they manage very different entities and, off the record (and off this record), have organizational aims that may go beyond democratic policing and employ offices that go beyond democratic policing guidelines. it is a reminder, should we need it, that policing is peculiarly difficult to export and peculiarly difficult to analyze globally when it is uncertain whether like is being com- pared with like. not only does this volume demonstrate that context matters for police services, but it is also a living demonstration of the importance of contingent factors such as the personalities and prejudices of the senior officers. Once again, in this as in the other volumes in this series, it is clear that organizational priorities are influenced by per- sonal priorities. some of the interviewees put their faith in training, some in management restructuring, some in forensic science, some in computerization, and some in the morality with which they were brought up. The narrowness of their focus and the intensity (and good fortune) of the implementation have played their part in producing distinct organizational configurations. in the final analysis, this book is a sociology of police leaders. we enter (as much as they allow their guard to be lowered) the mind- set of those whose decisions affect the lives of tens of thousands of citizens who are subject to or ignored by the officers these leaders supervise. That, of course, is to make the unproven assumption that what these senior experienced officers decide actually happens on the ground of the local police station—a dangerous assumption in many cases. nevertheless, the conceptualization of this book and its com- panion volumes is an important contribution to policing studies. we are indebted to ipes for conceiving and seeing through this project. The interviews will not teach the reader how to be a good senior police officer in any police service, but it will force the aspirant to high office to reflect on his or her own values, commitment to pub- lic service, the nature of what is possible in the inevitably constrained circumstances of real life, and what he or she thinks the police are for and should be like. Introduction Otwin Marenin and dilip das This is the third volume in a series of interviews with police leaders across the world. it is worth restating the idea and purpose behind these books, which take time and serious hard work by the interview- ers, the leaders interviewed, and the editors. There exists an abundance of scholarly work on the police, their institutions, their policies and practices, their successes and failures. But there is very little published writing available on what the prac- titioners who are the subjects of scholarly interest and research think about their work: their concerns, their opinions and evaluations of what works and what does not, their conceptions of success and fail- ure, their experiences and insights gained from living the police life. These volumes are created under the aegis of the international police executive forum (ipes), an organization founded by dilip das on the principle and belief that there should be greater interac- tion and exchange of information and ideas among scholars and prac- titioners than currently existed. This belief and the effort to record the views of practitioners are not designed as a critique of, alternative to, or substitute for scholarly work, but rather as a complement to it. it is our firm belief that, when combined, these two different realms xi xii IntroduCtIon of information—knowledge and wisdom—will lead to more accurate understanding and better theorizing about policing; more effective, humane, and, yes, democratic policing and better security; improved justice; and increased well-being of communities. almost unavoidably and by habit, there is some distrust among scholars and practitioners about the value of knowledge gained and held by others. we do not share that distrust. we do not believe that, unless one has done policing, one cannot understand or inter- pret what policing is like, nor do we believe that practitioners cannot think theoretically about issues other than their pressing opera- tional and managerial needs. scholars know policing from the out- side in and practitioners from the inside out. Both perspectives are valuable, and they provide reciprocal correctives to potential mis- understandings and misinterpretations of the realities of policing or conceptions of needed reforms. The goal in recording, translating, transcribing, and publishing these interviews is just that: to record and not judge (at least right away) what the leaders are telling the interviewers. The fact that one might have answered a question differently is not an issue for us. we know what we think but we want to record as accurately as possible what police leaders think, as stated in their own words. The interviews in this volume, as in the past two, reflect a wide diversity of opinions among the police leaders, with some consistent overlaps. police leaders deal with a basically similar job: how to man- age an organization and how to ensure that the job is done as planned. However, they do so in contexts that are fundamentally different in terms of political life, economic resources, social structures, police– community relations, and transnational interactions. still, within these vastly different contexts, the leaders discuss political influences on policing and tend to reject them; profess an adherence to the ideology of community policing while noting the problems that stand in the way of institutionalizing this style of polic- ing; are aware of the need to interact with the international envi- ronment from which come transnational crime, advice and assistance by states, nGOs, iGOs, and the traveling horde of consultants; and seek to improve the performance, as defined by local and interna- tional standards, of the agencies that they lead. it is also obvious that some leaders are more practically oriented and concerned mostly with

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