/ edited by G. Barry Golson Classic conversations with: Miles Davis • Bertrand Russell • Helen Gurley Brown Malcolm X • Albert Schweitzer • Vladimir Nabokov Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali • Martin Luther King, Jr. Madalyn Murray • George Lincoln Rockwell Timothy Leary • Mel Brooks • Fidel Castro John Wayne • Albert Speer • Tennessee Williams Walter Cronkite - Joseph Heller • Jimmy Hoffa • Jerry Brown Jimmy Carter -PatMoynihan - James Earl Ray-Anita Bryant Dolly Parton • Marlon Brando • Edward Teller John Lennon and Yoko Ono THE PLAYBOY INTERVIEW G. Barry Golson, editor What has been called “the command per¬ formance of American journalism” began in the spring of 1962, when a writer named Alex Haley returned from an assignment to profile jazz great Miles Davis and emptied a brief¬ case full of tapes at Playboy’s editorial office in Chicago. The transcribed conversations were shaped and stitched together to form the first Playboy Interview, a feature as memo¬ rable in its own way as the centerfold. In the nearly two decades since then, through assassinations, the civil rights move¬ ment, the sexual revolution, the Vietnam war, the women’s movement, rock and roll, drugs, the television explosion, and years of tumultuous change, the Playboy Interview has provided revealing portraits of those who most profoundly affect our society. It is one forum where prominent people discuss them¬ selves and their ideas in unusual depth and with surprising frankness. As presidents and poets, artists and ath¬ letes, saints and scoundrels have found, Playboy interviews are exhausting. That’s be¬ cause the idea has always been to push harder, to probe more deeply, to ask and ask questions until the interviewer, the editor, and the subject agree that something like lb definitive interview has been obtained. Whatever the field of endeavor or the toriety of the accomplishments, the Playboy (continued on back flap 5P THE PLAYBOY INTERVIEW _ PLAYBOY __T Interview Edited by G. Barry Golson PLAYBOY PRESS New York Copyright © 1981 by Playboy. From playboy magazine: Copyright © 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, by Playboy. All rights reserved. No part of this book may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system or transmitted in any form by an electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording means or otherwise, without prior written per¬ mission of the author. Manufactured in the United States of America. First Edition Library of Congress Cataloging in Publication Data Main entry under title: The Playboy interview. 1. Biography—20th century. 2. Interviews. 3. Interviewing (Journalism) I. Golson, G. Barry. II. Playboy. CT120.P55 081 80-52441 ISBN 0-87223-668-4 0-87223-644-7 (pbk.) Designed by Tere LoPrete 3 1223 06562 0404 CONTENTS vii Foreword Miles Davis 3 Bertrand Russell 13 Helen Gurley Brown 24 Malcolm X 37 Albert Schweitzer 54 Vladimir Nabokov 61 Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali (two interviews) 76 Martin Luther King, Jr. 112 Madalyn Murray 136 George Lincoln Rockwell 153 Timothy Leary 179 • Mel Brooks (two interviews) 202 Fidel Castro 235 John Wayne 261 Albert Speer 282 Germaine Greer 326 Tennessee Williams 352 Walter Cronkite 370 Joseph Heller 393 Jimmy Hoff a 418 Jerry Brown 435 Jimmy Carter 456 Pat Moynihan 489 James Earl Ray 520 13 56266 SFPL ” OBKS 79 SF 08/13/08 5004 VI Contents Anita Bryant 550 Dolly Barton 578 Marlon Brando 608 Edward Teller 644 John Lennon and Yoko Ono 675 Afterword 722