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"BEFORE THIS DECADE Is OUT..." Personal Reflections on the Apollo Program For sale by the U.S. Government Printing Office Superintendent of Documents, Mail Stop: SSOP,Washington, DC 20402-9328 ISBN 0-16-050139-3 NASA SP-4223 "BEFORE THIS DECADE Is OUT..." Personal Reflections on the Apollo Program Edited by Glen E. Swanson The NASA History Series _tionaI Aeronautics and Space Administration NASA History Office Office of PolicY and Plans Washington, DC 1999 Library of Congress Cataloguing-in-Publication Data Swanson, Glen E., 1963- "Before This Decade Is Out ...": Personal Reflecti,ms on the Apollo Program p. cm.--(NASA SP: 4223) (The NASA History Series) Includes bibliographical references and index. 1.Project Apollo(U.S.) History. 2. Aerospace engineers_United States Interviews I. Swanson, Glen E., t963- .11.Series. II1.Series: The NASA hi,tog" series. TL789.8.U6A5187 1999 629.45'4'0973_dc21 99-23780 CIP CONTENTS Foreword ......................................... iii Acknowledgments .................................. v Introduction ...................................... ix Chapter 1. James E. Webb ......................... 1 Chapter 2. Thomas O. Paine ..................... 15 Chapter 3. Wernher von Braun .................... 41 Chapter 4. Robert R. Gilruth ..................... 61 Chapter 5. George E. Mueller .................... 101 Chapter 6. Eugene E Kranz ...................... 119 Chapter 7. Arthur J. Rogers, Jr.................... 173 Chapter 8. James H. "Hart3'" Guin ................ 191 Chapter 9. Glynn S. Lunney ..................... 203 Chapter 10. Geneva B. Barnes .................... 223 Chapter 11. Charles M. Duke, Jr................... 245 Chapter 12. Harrison H. Schmitt .................. 285 Chapter 13. George M. Low ...................... 307 Chapter 14. Maxime A. Faget .................... 347 Annotated Project Apollo Bibliography ................ 379 About the Editor ................................. 387 Index .......................................... 389 The NASA History Series .......................... 403 FOREWORD As the 20th century ends and we approach the beginning of a new millennium, future generations will look back and recall the leav- ing of our home planet as a defining moment in the history of humankind. The story of Apollo has been told and retold many times by those fortunate enough to have experienced space travel first hand--the astronauts themselves. Those who managed to leave the cradle of the Earth and walk upon the surface of the Moon offer a unique perspective shared firsthand by only a handful of people chosen to represent humankind in the culmination of this great adventure. As we reflect on the 30th anniversary of Apollo's first landing, we should not overlook other accounts of this monumen- tal achievement as offered by those representing the half a million people associated with the program. During the 1960s, these people joined in a national effort to bring to completion President John E Kennedy's vision of landing Americans on the Moon and returning them safely to Earth before the end of the decade. For a project as massive as the Apollo program, history may distance itself to the extent where modern interpretation distills a feeling that such events took place without extensive human involvement. Nothing could be further removed from the truth. Through the verbal accounts offered by the oral histories such as presented in this volume, we are reintroduced to the critical human factor which is the essence of any history. People made Apollo happen and it isimportant to preserve their thoughts, feel- ings, and recollections for future generations. The oral histories presented in this volume offer a sample of what NASA has done to preserve the story of Apollo as part of our nation's human space- flight heritage. The accounts included in this book are a small sampling of the large number of oral histories that have been conducted under the auspices of the NASA history program, since near the begin- ning of the Agency. They also represent the many personal contributions made during Project Apollo, the single largest iii peacetime endeavor in American history. These recollections span the origins, management, and completion of that enormous effort and measurably enhance our appreciation of its difficulty. I am pleased that the comments of some of the key individuals involved in Project Apollo are being preserved by NASA and made avail- able through this book. The people who are quoted in this book were among the top leaders of NASA. All of them played a prominent part in the con- duct and accomplishments of Apollo. As one of those who knew and watched these individuals lead, I have a particular sense of their statements. I always had the feeling of having been granted a special privilege to participate and work on the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo programs. The contents of this book reveal that these people had similar experiences. They all recognized that it took lit- erally thousands of dedicated people to bring these efforts to fruition and that it was up to them to provide the necessary lead- ership to allow all of the workers on the project to accomplish their tasks. It was a wondrous thing to watch. Anyone interested in the underlying strength of NASA in this time period will find these accounts a fascinating read. Christopher C. Kraft, Jr. Director, Flight Operations, NASA Johnson Space Center, 1963-1969 Director, NASA Johnson Space Center, 1972-1982 iv ACKNOWLEDGMENTS This volume takes advantage ofthe large collections of oral histories available within NASA which have been conducted and gathered since the early beginnings of the agency. More recent efforts include the Johnson Space Center Oral History Project (JSC OHP) which was established in 1996, under the direction of JSC Director George Abbey, to document and record the memories of those individuals involved in the history of human space flight. We pursued the task of creating this book when the opportunity presented itself to utilize many of the oral histories resulting from this and other oral history projects, specifically focusing on those people who had a role in the successful completion of Project Apollo in order to publish their per- sonal reflections in commemoration of the 30th anniversary of Apollo 11. In doing so, we incurred numerous debts. A great deal of time and effort went into researching, inter- viewing, transcribing, and duplicating each of the oral histories present in this volume. For those interviews conducted and used in this volume as part of the JSC OHP, a special note of thanks is extended to Bill Larsen, Carol Butler, Summer Chick Bergen, Rebecca Wright, Michelle Kelly, Kevin Rusnak, Tim Farrell, and Sasha Adams Tarrant. In addition, a special note of thanks to my JSC Branch Manager, Peggy Wooten, who was patient in allowing me time to do research. Numerous past oral histories were also researched and utilized. Those that helped in locating these include Janet Kovacevich of the JSC Science and Technical Information Center. Joan Ferry and Lois Morris of the JSC Collection at Rice University were invalu- able in researching, locating, and making copies of hundreds of pages of interview transcripts for review. Early interviews used in this work include those conducted by H. George Frederickson, Henry J. Anna, Barry Kelmachter, Roger E. Bilstein, Robert Sherrod, John Beltz, Eugene M. Emme, Jay Holmes, Addison Roghrock, Ivan Ertel, and James M. Grimwood. Among the many prev|ous oral history projects conducted by and through NASA, one stands out as being the most complete in "BEFORTEHIS DECADE IS OUT ..." both size and detail. Much gratitude is given to the late Robert Sherrod who, from 1968-1974, interviewed dozens of key players in the Apollo program. A career journalist, he covered General MacArthur's campaign against the Japanese in the South Pacific during WWII. After the war, he was one of Time-Life's leading cor- respondents, specializing in defense matters as well as covering the early years of the U.S. manned space program. He was the final editor of the Saturday Evening Post before its demise. Time-Life con- tracted Sherrod to research and write a detailed history of the Apollo program but sadly enough, the book never materialized. In its wake, he left to NASA hundreds of pages of detailed transcripts meticulously annotated for future researchers, several of which were used for this book. For those interviews that survive only in audio tape form, recovery and restoration work was needed during the course of research. JSC OHP technical support members Paul Rollins and Franklin Tarazona proved invaluable in quickly responding to var- ious duplication requests and technical questions. The numerous photos that appear throughout the text were gleaned from several sources, including the editor's own personal collection. Mike Gentry of the JSC Media Resource Center came through with several last minute photo requests. Mary Wilkerson and Linda Turney of the JSC Still Image Repository also spent time in responding to numerous photo queries. Many photos also came to be used in this book as a result of Brian Nicklas, of the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum, who led this editor to their research office's newly acquired Herb Desind Collection. Much of this text would not have been possible initially without the willingness of those individuals (both past and present) featured in these chapters to take the time and effort to share their personal reflections. A special thank you is extended to James E. Webb, Thomas O. Paine, Wemher von Braun, Robert R. Gilruth, George E. Mueller, Eugene E Kranz, Arthur J. Rogers, Jr., James H. "Harry" Guin, Glynn S. Lunney, Geneva B. Barnes, Charles M. Duke, Jr., Harrison H. "Jack" Schmitt, George M. Low, and Maxime A. Faget. Numerous people at other NASA Centers associated with his- v/

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