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1 DEBATING CALVINISM published by Multnomah Publishers, Inc. © 2004 by Dave Hunt and James White International Standard Book Number: 1–59052–273–7 Cover design by Kevin Keller/Design Concepts Interior design & typeset by Katherine Lloyd, The DESK Cover images by Digital Vision Unless otherwise indicated, Scripture quotations used by James White are from New American Standard Bible® (NASB) © 1960, 1977, 1995 by the Lockman Foundation. Used by permission. Scripture quotations used by Dave Hunt are from The Holy Bible, King James Version (KJV) Multnomah is a trademark of Multnomah Publishers, Inc., and is registered in the U.S. Parent and Trademark Office. The colophon is a trademark of Multnomah Publishers, Inc. Printed in the United States of America ALL RIGHTS RESERVED No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form or by any means—electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise—without prior written permission. For information: MULTNOMAH PUBLISHERS, INC. POST OFFICE BOX 1720 SISTERS, OREGON 97759 Library of Congress Cataloging-in-Publication Data Hunt, Dave. Debating Calvinism : five points, two views / by Dave Hunt and James White. p. cm. Includes bibliographical references and index. ISBN 1-59052-273-7 (pbk.) 1. Calvinism. 2. Reformed Church--Doctrines. I. White, James R. (James Robert), 1962- II. Title. BX9422.3.H86 2004 230'.42--dc22 2 CONTENTS PREFACE Introduction CALVINISM AFFIRMED, by James White CALVINISM DENIED, by Dave Hunt Part I: Calvinism Affirmed CHAPTER ONE: GOD'S ETERNAL DECREE by James White Response, by Dave Hunt Defense, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White CHAPTER TWO: MAN'S INABILITY by James White Response, by Dave Hunt Defense, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White CHAPTER THREE: UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION by James White Response, by Dave Hunt Defense, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White CHAPTER FOUR: JESUS TEACHES THE DOCTRINES OF GRACE by James White Response, by Dave Hunt 3 Defense, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White CHAPTER FIVE: THE GOLDEN CHAIN OF REDEMPTION by James White Response, by Dave Hunt Defense, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White CHAPTER SIX: PARTICULAR REDEMPTION: TRUE ATONEMENT, TRUE SUBSTITUTION by James White Response, by Dave Hunt Defense, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White CHAPTER SEVEN: IRRESISTIBLE GRACE: GOD SAVES WITHOUT FAIL by James White Response, by Dave Hunt Defense, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White Part II: Calvinism Denied CHAPTER EIGHT: CALVIN AND AUGUSTINE: TWO JONAHS WHO SINK THE SHIP by Dave Hunt Response, by James White Defense, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt 4 CHAPTER NINE: THE CENTRAL ISSUE: GOD'S LOVE AND CHARACTER by Dave Hunt Response, by James White Defense, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt CHAPTER TEN: REGENERATION BEFORE FAITH AND SALVATION? by Dave Hunt Response, by James White Defense, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt CHAPTER ELEVEN: TURNING THE BIBLE INTO A CHARADE by Dave Hunt Response, by James White Defense, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt CHAPTER TWELVE: GOD'S SOVEREIGNTY AND MAN'S WILL by Dave Hunt Response, by James White Defense, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt CHAPTER THIRTEEN: SALVATION OFFERED TO ALL by Dave Hunt Response, by James White Defense, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White 5 Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt CHAPTER FOURTEEN: BIBLICAL ASSURANCE OF SALVATION by Dave Hunt Response, by James White Defense, by Dave Hunt Final Remarks, by James White Final Remarks, by Dave Hunt FINAL AFFIRMATION, by James White FINAL DENIAL, by Dave Hunt 6 PREFACE What did you do to be saved? What has God done? Christians from every age of history have taken aim at answering these questions from the Scriptures. And some of these voices have rung out louder than others: Augustine, Pelagius, Arminius, Calvin, Erasmus, Luther, Whitefield, Wesley. We've heard their names, but have we listened to their words? Have we measured their arguments by the God-breathed words of the Bible? Reader, you will find in our debate that the issues surrounding the vital teachings of the Bible concerning our own salvation—what theologians call the doctrines of soteriology—are still very dear to Christians of today. The passion of our debaters is undeniable. Their positions are entrenched and heavily fortified. Indeed, we might easily have had their names conjoined on the cover with versus rather than the tamer and. The issue at hand is "Calvinism" insomuch as that system is codified in five main points: total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, and perseverance of the saints. And yet surely both James White and Dave Hunt would readily admit that the issue runs deeper than these five points, to a way of thinking about God and how He works the impossible wonders of grace. The format of this debate is largely standard, though most debates are done in live, public forums. Each author contributes seven chapters offered to substantiate his opening position statement. Following each chapter, a response, defense, and final remarks are given in turn. The constraints here are quantities of words, not minutes. As a reader, consider yourself at an advantage to glean and consider and reconsider the arguments at your leisure. Why can't he get it? you may find yourself asking. Or perhaps, How could I have missed that all along? Our hope is that of Spurgeon, that publishing such a forum might "thrust forward before the minds of Christians, precious truths, which but for it, might have been kept in the shade."1 1 Charles H. Spurgeon, "God's Will and Man's Will," sermon preached 30 March 1862. 7 Introduction 8 CALVINISM AFFIRMED by James White I n the late summer of 2000, I interviewed Dave Hunt on KPXQ radio in Phoenix. Mr. Hunt had just published an article in the Berean Call attacking the Reformed position. The article misquoted Matthew 23:37 and presented the "standard" objections to Calvinism, objections based primarily upon evangelical/Arminian traditions and common misconceptions concerning the actual beliefs of Calvinists. I had written a full-length response to Norman Geisler on the same topic in The Potter's Freedom, but Dr. Geisler had declined every opportunity for dialogue, especially public dialogue and debate. I knew Dave Hunt would not decline such an invitation. When we began the program, I noted that both Dave Hunt and I engage in public, formal debates with Roman Catholic apologists. I also noted that I had recently debated Robert Sungenis, a Catholic apologist, on the topic of justification by faith. Here is how the first question and response between Dave Hunt and me went: White: One of the key issues that came out there...this is one of the main reasons I contacted you, one of the main reasons I wrote you the letter... is the issue of monergism versus synergism; that is, the idea that there is one force that brings about salvation, over against a synergistic viewpoint that views it as a cooperation, a cooperative effort between two forces, man and God. And the reason I brought that up...is that Mr. Sungenis, in representing the Roman Catholic perspective, very strongly attacked the Reformed emphasis upon the sovereignty of the grace of God.... In light of your article, and the fact that...you reject the concept of irresistible grace...you and I are responding to one of the key issues of the Reformation in a different way. In essence, my first question to you would be: Do you feel that the Reformers Martin Luther and John Calvin were in error in emphasizing the deadness of man in sin and the absolute necessity—not just necessity, but sufficiency—of the grace of God to bring a person to salvation? Hunt: Well, first of all, James, I'm very ignorant of the Reformers. I have not had time to read them. There are truckloads, I guess, of their writings. I like to just kinda' pretend that we're back there in the days of the apostles before all of these things were written. And I like to go to the Bible. So whether the Reformers said this or that, I don't know.1 1 You can listen to the discussion at www.straitgate.com/jwdhl.ram 9 Mr. Hunt went on to say that we should go to the Bible, and I surely agreed with that. But I was surprised that he was unaware of the issue Luther had described as the very hinge upon which the entire Reformation turned; namely, the freedom of God and the sufficiency of the grace of God in salvation. This was even more surprising due to the fact that Mr. Hunt's attacks upon the Reformed faith parallel those of Roman Catholics. When it comes to the issues of the freedom of God, the efficacy of grace, and the will of man, Mr. Hunt's evangelical tradition stands side by side with Rome in denying the heart of the Reformation. It was most surprising, then, to hear only a few months later that Mr. Hunt was writing a book about this very subject, especially in light of his own confession of ignorance of the topic. I informed him that, in light of the errors of understanding he had enunciated during the radio program, I felt it was out of line for him to be publishing on the topic. The publication of What Love Is This? prompted me to write an open letter, which was posted on our website and very quickly distributed to a very wide audience.2 The book was disappointing on every level. The tenor was harsh. The attacks upon historic figures were unfair and unkind, revealing a bias that no honest historian should abide. The misuse of sources was ram-pant and included numerous errors in understanding even of my own work, which played a prominent role in Mr. Hunt's broadside at "Calvinism." The same misconceptions spoken in self- professed ignorance in August of 2000 were now being promoted under the banner of research and argumentation in print. But most importantly, I noted the continued enshrinement of tradi- tion over sound exegesis of the Scriptures. Some may question the wisdom of engaging in a point-counterpoint debate with Mr. Hunt on this topic. Allow me to say that I do so first and foremost out of love for God's truth and God's people. As an elder in a Reformed Baptist Church,3 I believe it is my duty to "refute those who contradict" (Titus 1:9) and give an answer for my faith. As an apologist, I must be consistent in my stance as well. If I point to Rome's teaching that the grace of God is necessary but not sufficient to save, and identify this as a gross error that denies God His true glory in salvation, must I not likewise point out this error when it is propounded under the name of evangelicalism? How can I consistently call Rome to the final authority of Scripture and insist that it test its traditions by God's Word when evangelicals go about blind to their own traditions, refusing to test them by Scripture, in essence abandoning sofa scriptura? It would surely be more popular to refrain from pointing out these errors, but for the one who seeks God's approval there is no other choice. Dave Hunt does not understand the Reformed faith, and his book is filled with numerous straw-men caricatures that have nothing to do with the reality of it. It is not as if Mr. Hunt had not been warned that he was going to put in print many errors that would be quickly documented and refuted. I, along with others, can prove that we gave him that brotherly warning. But he has refused to take heed, so now the issue is the impact of the publication and dissemination of error on the wider audience of the church. TRADITION VERSUS SOLA SCRIPTURA In our radio conversation, Mr. Hunt at one point made a very important statement. When I pointed out that he was simply responding to the Scripture passages I was raising on the basis of 2 aomin.org/DHOpenLetter.html 3 www.prbc.org 10
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