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UAV Marta Dyczok 6 This book is like a time capsule. It’s a selection of interviews that aired on Hromadske (Community) Radio’s Ukraine Calling show. They capture what people were think- ing during a critical time in the country’s history, from the July 2016 NATO Summit through to Volodymyr Zelensky’s 2019 landslide election victories. Decision makers, opinion makers, and others commented on events of the day and larger issues from UKRAINE CALLING politics to sports, religion, history, war, books, diplomacy, health, business, art and D more. Interview guests include Canada’s then Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland, y c writer Andrey Kurkov, Crimean political prisoner Hennadii Afanasiev, UNHRC’s z o Pablo Mateu, ethnologist Ihor Poshyvailo, and a cameo appearance by Boris John- k A Kaleidoscope son. These interviews provide a unique, kaleidoscopic perspective on Ukraine as it was on the receiving end of a hybrid war from Russia. from Hromadske Radio “Why is Ukraine in the news? What is so special about the country? Are they really out to get Mr. Trump? Who is Mr. Zelenskyy? These and many other questions are answered in 2016–2019 this collection of interviews with the people who know the country inside out. A must read for U everyone who is interested in the country, the region, and the international politics of today.” k Serhii Plokhy, Professor of Ukrainian History, Harvard University r a “This is really live history. These stories and discussions were recorded during the dramatic i years when Ukraine was fighting on two fronts: defending itself from Russian aggression n e in the war zone, and domestically against corruption. They reflect facts and the spirit of the time and thus are unique materials which enable an English-language audience to better C a understand Ukraine and also how the West needs to uphold their own European values. l Compiled by Marta Dyczok, one of the most knowledgeable Western scholars on Ukraine, l i with huge experience of living in Ukraine, travels to all the corners of the country, connec- n tions to Ukrainian VIPs but also to ordinary Ukrainian people who are struggling for free- g dom.” Olexiy Haran, Professor of Comparative Politics, Kyiv-Mohyla Academy “If you’re looking for thoughtful treatment of contemporary events in post-Maidan Ukraine by empathetic experts, Ukraine Calling—the book of the podcast—is for you. As the years 2014–2018 recede into history, the voices of lived and reflected experience become all the more valuable.” Roman Waschuk, Canada’s Ambassador to Ukraine 2014–2019 The editor: Marta Dyczok, D. Phil. (Oxford), is an Associate Professor at the Departments of History and Political Science, Western University, Canada, Fellow at the University of Toronto’s Munk School of Global Affairs, and Adjunct Professor at the Kyiv-Mohyla Academy. The author of the foreword: Andriy Kulykov is a chairperson of Hromadske Radio at Kyiv. ISBN: 978-3-8382-1472-6 With a foreword by Andriy Kulykov Distributed by ibidem ibidem ibd Ukrainian Voices, vol. 6 COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY PRESS Marta Dyczok Ukraine Calling A Kaleidoscope from Hromadske Radio 2016–2019 With a foreword by Andriy Kulykov Assistance by Oksana Smerechuk, Caitilín O’Hare, and Larysa Iarovenko U V KRAINIAN OICES Collected by Andreas Umland 1 Mychailo Wynnyckyj Ukraine’s Maidan, Russia’s War A Chronicle and Analysis of the Revolution of Dignity With a foreword by Serhii Plokhy ISBN 978-3-8382-1327-9 2 Olexander Hryb Understanding Contemporary Ukrainian and Russian Nationalism The Post-Soviet Cossack Revival and Ukraine’s National Security With a foreword by Vitali Vitaliev ISBN 978-3-8382-1377-4 3 Marko Bojcun Towards a Political Economy of Ukraine Selected Essays 1990–2015 With a foreword by John-Paul Himka ISBN 978-3-8382-1368-2 4 Volodymyr Yermolenko (ed.) Ukraine in Histories and Stories Essays by Ukrainian Intellectuals With a preface by Peter Pomerantsev ISBN 978-3-8382-1456-6 5 Mykola Riabchuk At the Fence of Metternich’s Garden Essays on Europe, Ukraine, and Europeanization ISBN 978-3-8382-1484-9 The book series “Ukrainian Voices” publishes English- and German-language monographs, edited volumes, document collections, and anthologies of articles authored and composed by Ukrainian politicians, intellectuals, activists, officials, researchers, and diplomats. The series’ aim is to introduce Western and other audiences to Ukrainian explorations, deliberations and interpretations of historic and current, domestic, and international affairs. The purpose of these books is to make non-Ukrainian readers familiar with how some prominent Ukrainians approach, view and assess their country’s development and position in the world. The series was founded and the volumes are collected by Andreas Umland, Dr. phil. (FU Berlin), Ph. D. (Cambridge), Associate Professor of Politics at the Kyiv-Mohyla Academy and Senior Expert at the Ukrainian Institute for the Future in Kyiv. Marta Dyczok UKRAINE CALLING A Kaleidoscope from Hromadske Radio 2016–2019 With a foreword by Andriy Kulykov Assistance by Oksana Smerechuk, Caitilín O’Hare, and Larysa Iarovenko Bibliografische Information der Deutschen Nationalbibliothek Die Deutsche Nationalbibliothek verzeichnet diese Publikation in der Deutschen Nationalbibliografie; detaillierte bibliografische Daten sind im Internet über http://dnb.d-nb.de abrufbar. Bibliographic information published by the Deutsche Nationalbibliothek Die Deutsche Nationalbibliothek lists this publication in the Deutsche Nationalbibliografie; detailed bibliographic data are available in the Internet at http://dnb.d-nb.de. ISBN-13: 978-3-8382-7472-0 © ibidem-Verlag, Stuttgart 2021 Alle Rechte vorbehalten Das Werk einschließlich aller seiner Teile ist urheberrechtlich geschützt. Jede Verwertung außerhalb der engen Grenzen des Urheberrechtsgesetzes ist ohne Zustimmung des Verlages unzulässig und strafbar. Dies gilt insbesondere für Vervielfältigungen, Übersetzungen, Mikroverfilmungen und elektronische Speicherformen sowie die Einspeicherung und Verarbeitung in elektronischen Systemen. All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in or introduced into a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form, or by any means (electronical, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise) without the prior written permission of the publisher. Any person who does any unauthorized act in relation to this publication may be liable to criminal prosecution and civil claims for damages. Contents Andriy Kulykov Foreword. This is the Book I Need .................................................... 9 Marta Dyczok Introduction ......................................................................................... 11 Mykhailo Samus, Hanna Hopko, Andreas Umland “NATO’s Warsaw Summit and Ukraine” ........................................ 17 Chrystia Freeland, Volodymyr Groysman, Andriy Shevchenko, Mychailo Wynnyckyi “Canada and Ukraine: Shared Values and Real Economic Opportunities” ..................................................................................... 29 Andriy Kulykov, Kateryna Smagliy and Paul Niland “The Killing of Journalist Pavel Sheremet in Kyiv: In-Depth Commentary” ....................................................................................... 39 Dennis Lozinsky, Daniel Bilak and Frank Sysyn “What Role Does Religion Play in a Hybrid War?” ........................ 53 Olexiy Haran and Brian Whitmore “Is War the New Normal in Ukraine?” ............................................ 65 Volodymyr Ohryzko, Brian Mefford, Michael Getto and Jairo O. Nascimento “War, Sports and Politics” .................................................................. 75 Oleksander Tkachenko and Serhii Plohkii “Shadow of the 1991 Moscow Coup Today” ................................... 83 Serhiy Holovatyj and Bohdan Nahaylo “Ukraine: 25 Years of Independence, a Thousand Years of History” ................................................................................................ 91 Olena Bilan, Cameo by Boris Johnson “IMF Loans & Economic Challenges: Western Sunrise in Ukraine” .............................................................................................. 105 5 Timothy Snyder “Ukraine Commemorated the 75th Anniversary of the Babyn Yar Tragedy” ...................................................................................... 113 Nestor Gayowsky “Ukraine, Canada & a Satellite Phone: How History Happened in 1991” ............................................................................................... 121 Serhii Plohkii “Read This Book with a Martini. Shaken, Not Stirred” ............... 131 Yevhen Fedchenko “How Ukraine Was the Testing Lab for Russia’s Information War against the United States” ........................................................ 139 Daniel Drezner “What Can Ukraine Expect from Trump: Temporary Insanity or a Permanent Shift?” ...................................................................... 145 Hennadiy Afanasiev “I Participated in a Pro-ukrainian Protest against Russian Occupation” ....................................................................................... 153 Ihor Poshyvailo “Celebrating Ukrainian Easter: Not Rabbits and Chocolate but Paska and Pysanky” .......................................................................... 161 Olesia Ostrovska-Liuta “Laughter and Strength Featured at Kyiv’s Book Arsenal” ........ 171 Peter Solomon “Who Judges the Judges? Peter Solomon on Successes & Challenges of Legal Reform in Ukraine” ....................................... 181 Ulana Suprun “Putting an End to the ‘Wild West Pharmo-Mafia’ in Ukraine” .............................................................................................. 193 Pablo Mateu “Assisting Ukraine’s Uprooted—UNHCR and Partners in Action” ................................................................................................ 207 6 Pavlo Mamontov “Wounded Warrior Now Competing in Invictus Games” .......... 217 Volodymyr Kulyk “Why All the Fuss? Ukraine’s New Education Law” ................... 223 Andrey Kurkov “We Don’t Need a New Maidan” ................................................... 233 General Sir Rupert Smith, Sir William Jeffrey and George Anderson “Conflict Resolution in Donbas: No Magic Formula, Political Process Is Needed” ............................................................................ 245 Brian Whitmore “There Has to Be an ‘or Else.’ Washington Analyst Whitmore on War, Ukraine, Russia, Hybrid Containment, and More” ........................................................................................... 261 Michael Bociurkiw and Kateryna Kruk “Was It All Worth It? Babchenko’s Case and the Credibility of Ukrainian Authorities” ..................................................................... 275 Oleksandr Danyliuk “Everything Was Agreed in Advance” .......................................... 289 Michel Terestchenko “The Good, the Bad, and the Very Ugly. Michel Terestchenko on Ukraine Regional Politics“ .......................................................... 301 Jaroslav Skira “Resurrection of Christianity in Ukraine. Prof. Jaroslav Skira on Religion and Politics, and Newly Created Orthodox Church of Ukraine“ ........................................................................... 311 Olga Onuch “Ukraine 2019 Rada Election. Olga Onuch on Results and Implications“ ...................................................................................... 325 7 Foreword This is the Book I Need I need this book because it helps me not to err in my memories of very important years in Ukrainian history. My recollections of those years are very personal and thus may be misleading. I need yardsticks to measure the validity of what I imagine I remember against what was happening there and then as perceived by other people. Compare, and you have a better chance of keeping a true picture in mind. Dr. Marta Dyczok produced a series of radio shows that reflected the most pressing issues of Ukraine’s life in those years. They combined topicality, and moreover, urgency. Her pod/broadcasts were interviews with important speakers, sometimes already accomplished opinion leaders, and sometimes, those who would gain part of the necessary experience for being influencers from talking to her. The show covered a set of issues of paramount importance to Europe (and some would say, for the world), as Ukraine stood up against the open aggression of Russia, the country whose rulers are bent on regaining a degree of the regional and global dominance it used to have so recently. For us at Hromadske Radio, Dr. Dyczok’s voluntary contribution to our work was a bright example of solidarity with Ukraine’s cause, proof that what we have been striving for was also of importance for a person from a totally different country; sometimes, it would seem, from a totally different world. What Dr. Dyczok did, by devising and running her radio show, was evidence of the fact that we do not live in parallel worlds, however different they are: our worlds do cross, they interact and overlap, and shape each other, even if this takes a long, long time. What did this effort mean for Dr. Dyczok? One thing I can say for sure: this was in no way a materially rewarding experience. Being financed by grants and having to resort to lengthy periods of unpaid work more than once, we could never offer Dr. Dyczok a 9