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THE PROPOSED U.S. SECURITY COMMITMENT TO IRAQ: WHAT WILL BE IN IT AND SHOULD IT BE A TREATY? JOINT HEARING BEFORETHE SUBCOMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, HUMAN RIGHTS, AND OVERSIGHT ANDTHE SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE MIDDLE EAST AND SOUTH ASIA OFTHE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED TENTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION JANUARY 23, 2008 Serial No. 110–151 Printed for the use of the Committee on Foreign Affairs ( Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.foreignaffairs.house.gov/ U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 40–341PDF WASHINGTON : 2008 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512–1800; DC area (202) 512–1800 Fax: (202) 512–2104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402–0001 VerDate 0ct 09 2002 11:26 Mar 21, 2008 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 F:\WORK\110TH\TEXT\40341.000 Hintrel1 PsN: SHIRL COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS TOM LANTOS, California, Chairman HOWARD L. BERMAN, California ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN, Florida GARY L. ACKERMAN, New York CHRISTOPHER H. SMITH, New Jersey ENI F.H. FALEOMAVAEGA, American DAN BURTON, Indiana Samoa ELTON GALLEGLY, California DONALD M. PAYNE, New Jersey DANA ROHRABACHER, California BRAD SHERMAN, California DONALD A. MANZULLO, Illinois ROBERT WEXLER, Florida EDWARD R. ROYCE, California ELIOT L. ENGEL, New York STEVE CHABOT, Ohio BILL DELAHUNT, Massachusetts THOMAS G. TANCREDO, Colorado GREGORY W. MEEKS, New York RON PAUL, Texas DIANE E. WATSON, California JEFF FLAKE, Arizona ADAM SMITH, Washington MIKE PENCE, Indiana RUSS CARNAHAN, Missouri JOE WILSON, South Carolina JOHN S. TANNER, Tennessee JOHN BOOZMAN, Arkansas GENE GREEN, Texas J. GRESHAM BARRETT, South Carolina LYNN C. WOOLSEY, California CONNIE MACK, Florida SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas JEFF FORTENBERRY, Nebraska RUBE´N HINOJOSA, Texas MICHAEL T. MCCAUL, Texas JOSEPH CROWLEY, New York TED POE, Texas DAVID WU, Oregon BOB INGLIS, South Carolina BRAD MILLER, North Carolina LUIS G. FORTUN˜O, Puerto Rico LINDA T. SA´NCHEZ, California GUS BILIRAKIS, Florida DAVID SCOTT, Georgia ROBERT J. WITTMAN, Virginia JIM COSTA, California ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey GABRIELLE GIFFORDS, Arizona RON KLEIN, Florida ROBERT R. KING, Staff Director YLEEM POBLETE, Republican Staff Director (II) VerDate 0ct 09 2002 11:26 Mar 21, 2008 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 F:\WORK\110TH\TEXT\40341.000 Hintrel1 PsN: SHIRL SUBCOMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, HUMAN RIGHTS, AND OVERSIGHT BILL DELAHUNT, Massachusetts, Chairman RUSS CARNAHAN, Missouri DANA ROHRABACHER, California DONALD M. PAYNE, New Jersey RON PAUL, Texas GREGORY W. MEEKS, New York JEFF FLAKE, Arizona JOSEPH CROWLEY, New York CLIFF STAMMERMAN, Subcommittee Staff Director NATALIE COBURN, Subcommittee Professional Staff Member PHAEDRA DUGAN, Republican Professional Staff Member ELISA PERRY, Staff Associate SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE MIDDLE EAST AND SOUTH ASIA GARY L. ACKERMAN, New York, Chairman HOWARD L. BERMAN, California MIKE PENCE, Indiana DAVID SCOTT, Georgia STEVE CHABOT, Ohio JIM COSTA, California JOE WILSON, South Carolina RON KLEIN, Florida J. GRESHAM BARRETT, South Carolina BRAD SHERMAN, California JEFF FORTENBERRY, Nebraska ROBERT WEXLER, Florida BOB INGLIS, South Carolina ELIOT L. ENGEL, New York CONNIE MACK, Florida RUSS CARNAHAN, Missouri GUS BILIRAKIS, Florida SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas VACANT DAVID ADAMS, Subcommittee Staff Director HOWARD DIAMOND, Subcommittee Professional Staff Member GREGORY MCCARTHY, Republican Professional Staff Member DALIS BLUMENFELD, Staff Associate (III) VerDate 0ct 09 2002 11:26 Mar 21, 2008 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 F:\WORK\110TH\TEXT\40341.000 Hintrel1 PsN: SHIRL VerDate 0ct 09 2002 11:26 Mar 21, 2008 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 F:\WORK\110TH\TEXT\40341.000 Hintrel1 PsN: SHIRL C O N T E N T S Page WITNESSES Kenneth Katzman, Ph.D., Specialist in Middle East Affairs, Foreign Affairs, Defense and Trade Division, Congressional Research Service ......................... 12 Michael Rubin, Ph.D., Resident Scholar, American Enterprise Institute, Sen- ior Lecturer, Center for Civil Military Relations, Naval Postgraduate School .................................................................................................................... 36 Michael J. Matheson, Esq., Visiting Research Professor of Law, The George Washington University Law School.................................................................... 41 LETTERS, STATEMENTS, ETC., SUBMITTED FOR THE HEARING Kenneth Katzman, Ph.D.: Prepared statement .................................................... 15 Michael Rubin, Ph.D.: Prepared statement ........................................................... 39 Michael J. Matheson, Esq.: Prepared statement .................................................. 44 (V) VerDate 0ct 09 2002 11:26 Mar 21, 2008 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 F:\WORK\110TH\TEXT\40341.000 Hintrel1 PsN: SHIRL THE PROPOSED U.S. SECURITY COMMITMENT TO IRAQ: WHAT WILL BE IN IT AND SHOULD IT BE A TREATY? WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 23, 2008 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SUBCOMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, HUMAN RIGHTS, AND OVERSIGHT AND SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE MIDDLE EAST AND SOUTH ASIA, COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS, Washington, DC. The subcommittees met, pursuant to notice, at 10:10 a.m. in Room 2141, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. William D. Delahunt (chairman of the Subcommittee on International Organi- zations, Human Rights, and Oversight) presiding. Mr. DELAHUNT. The joint hearing of the Subcommittee on Over- sight and the Subcommittee on the Middle East will come to order. I would like to thank my distinguished colleague, Chairman Acker- man, for agreeing to this joint hearing, and on behalf of myself and my good friend, the ranking member from California, Mr. Rohr- abacher, I welcome the gentleman from New York and his distin- guished ranking member, Mr. Pence, who I understand is on his way. I would also note the presence of the gentlelady from Con- necticut, Ms. DeLauro, who has introduced legislation dealing with the subject of this hearing, and I ask unanimous consent that she and any other Member attending today’s hearing be permitted to act as a member of the subcommittee for the purpose of taking tes- timony and asking questions. Hearing no objection, so ordered. The multitude of potential commitments embraced by the so- called ‘‘Declaration of Principles’’ signed by President Bush and Prime Minister al-Maliki on November 22nd of last year have pro- found consequences for the United States and the American people. This hearing will, in part, examine those proposed commitments and assess whether congressional approval is required in order for them to become legally binding. However, let me be perfectly clear. The White House should be on notice that, as a prerequisite to any agreement making the kind of commitments enumerated in the Declaration of Principles, Con- gress must be an integral part of the discussions and negotiations from the beginning. What we have heard from the administration regarding the proc- ess by which the United States would make such momentous com- (1) VerDate 0ct 09 2002 11:26 Mar 21, 2008 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00007 Fmt 6633 Sfmt 6633 F:\WORK\110TH\TEXT\40341.000 Hintrel1 PsN: SHIRL 2 mitments; well, the only comment to date has come from a re- sponse to a question at a press conference by General Douglas Lute, the deputy national security adviser for Iraq and Afghani- stan. General Lute said that he does not, and these are his words, ‘‘anticipate now that these negotiations will lead to the status of a formal treaty, which would then bring us to formal negotiations or formal inputs from the Congress.’’ I, for one, could not disagree more. Where have we ever entered an agreement to defend a foreign country from external and inter- nal attack that was not a treaty? This could very well implicate our military forces in a full-blown civil war in Iraq. If a commitment of this magnitude does not rise to the level of a treaty, then it is difficult to imagine what could. Now, I have tre- mendous respect for General Lute. He and his family have served this country well, and that is why I invited him, as well as other witnesses from the Defense and State Department, to be here today to explain the administration’s position, but I am cognizant of the fact that General Lute is a soldier and not an international treaty attorney and that there are others above his pay grade that are re- sponsible for ultimate decisions. It should be noted for the record that, in addition to General Lute, invitations to this hearing were extended to Eric Edelman, the under secretary of defense for policy; John Bellinger, III, the State Department legal adviser; and Ambassador David Satterfield, the State Department special coordinator for Iraq. All four invita- tions were declined. Now, many of us are aware of the propensity of this administra- tion to interpret and expand executive power to a point never con- templated by the Founding Fathers. The voluminous, so-called ‘‘signing statements’’ issued by the White House are testimony to that attitude. Senator Hagel, our Republican colleague in the other body, has said that, during the runup to vote to authorize the invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration considered Congress to be, and, again, these are his words, ‘‘an enemy and a constitutional nui- sance.’’ Well, this is a different Congress. I find it particularly disturbing that the Bush administration has even ignored State Department regulations requiring that, and, again, this is language excerpted from their regulations, ‘‘the appropriate congressional leaders and committees are advised of the intention to significant new inter- national agreements, consulted concerning such agreements, and kept informed of developments affecting them, including, espe- cially, where any legislation is considered necessary or desirable for the implementation of a treaty or agreement. These regulations specifically state that when it comes to questions about whether or not an agreement is to be considered a treaty, consultations are to be held with Congress in which . . .’’ and, again, this is language taken from the State Department regulations, ‘‘every practical ef- fort will be made to identify such questions at the earliest possible date so that consultations may be completed in sufficient time to avoid last-minute consideration.’’ I have inquired of our leadership on this committee and the House leadership, and I can find no evidence that any of this has VerDate 0ct 09 2002 11:26 Mar 21, 2008 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00008 Fmt 6633 Sfmt 6633 F:\WORK\110TH\TEXT\40341.000 Hintrel1 PsN: SHIRL 3 occurred. This is disturbing, for considerable American blood and treasure have been invested in this war, a war that has devastated Iraq, divided America, diminished how we are viewed by the rest of the world, as well as jeopardized our reputation for decency and the rule of law. If you have any doubts about the war’s impact on our economy, check your stock market portfolio. As I said before, this is a different Congress. Not just the Bush administration, but the Maliki government, must understand that reality and that Congress has a constitutional role to play in inter- national agreements of such a magnitude and that we intend to en- sure that our constitutional prerogatives are fully respected. Furthermore, we are not unaware that many respected experts on Iraq have characterized the Maliki government as dysfunctional and beset by corruption and factionalism. Our hearing in December elicited testimony that the Maliki gov- ernment secured the extension of the U.N. mandate, which serves as the legal basis for United States troops to occupy and engage in combat in Iraq, without receiving the consent of the Iraqi Par- liament, despite assurances to the contrary. We encourage the Maliki government to engage the Iraqi Par- liament fully in deliberations on the so-called ‘‘Declaration of Prin- ciples.’’ But we recognize that the Parliament is the only directly elected body in the nascent democracy in Iraq. Before I introduce our witnesses, let me turn to my ranking member and the chairman and the ranking member of the Middle East Subcommittee, as well as our guest, the gentlelady from Con- necticut, and I note that we are joined by a member of the Middle East Subcommittee, Mr. Scott, as well, for any opening remarks they care to make, and the gentlelady from California, who has also joined us, Ms. Woolsey. Mr. Rohrabacher. Mr. ROHRABACHER. I guess we are surrounded by chairmen today. Mr. DELAHUNT. This is the chairmen’s day. Mr. ROHRABACHER. I do not want any of you to mistake me with Ron Paul because of the sign here. Mr. Chairman, welcome back. It is always an interesting and, I might say, pleasant experience for those of us who like to play mental chess, coming to hearings under your leadership. Two months ago, President Bush and Prime Minister al-Maliki signed a document called the ‘‘Declaration of Principles for Long-tern Re- lationship of Cooperation and Friendship Between the Republic of Iraq and the United States of America,’’ and that pact states that, by July 31st of this year, Iraq and the United States will have an agreement that will detail the relationship between our two coun- tries. The Declaration of Principles makes it clear that such an agree- ment will involve a commitment on the part of the United States to defend Iraq against internal or external attack on its security and its democratic government. The question that we will address in today’s hearing is, does such an agreement rise to the level of a treaty, which would need the ratification, legally require the rati- fication, by the United States Senate, as well as the Counsel of VerDate 0ct 09 2002 11:26 Mar 21, 2008 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00009 Fmt 6633 Sfmt 6633 F:\WORK\110TH\TEXT\40341.000 Hintrel1 PsN: SHIRL 4 Representatives in Iraq, or would this simply be a bilateral agree- ment, and thus solely an executive branch function? So we are talking about the legal realities, which would mandate certain legal prerequisites in terms of actions taken by the legisla- tive branch versus the executive branch. Let me note, I will be looking closely at what we are hearing today, in terms of the argumentation, on this specific issue, and I think it is good that you brought this up, and it is something that we need to discuss, especially considering the nature of governance of this particular administration. Let me just note that I believe that this administration has been arrogant. I am a Republican, and, at times, I am embarrassed by the lack of cooperation that this President and his appointees have had with the legislative branch. I sat in that chair just a few months ago, and the lack of cooperation that we had with various leaders from this administration was overwhelming. There is a seething resentment by Members of Congress who are Republicans by the fact that this administration has not even co- operated with us, much less with you, who represent another party. So there are ways of doing things, and there are other ways of doing things, and I think this administration has had its share of arrogance, and it is something that breeds the type of discussions that are necessary today. We have to look with a magnifying glass at what the legal prerequisites are because we do not have a spirit of cooperation. I cannot tell you how many times we have had to make requests on investigations, over the time period when I was chairman of this subcommittee, and got no cooperation whatsoever and got nothing but roadblocks in the way of those investigations. That does not lead one to have faith in the descriptions that are given to us sec- ondhand and thirdhand, and assurances given to us by senior members of this administration. However, with that said, let me note that I do reject the notion that Congress has not been involved in the debate over what our Iraq policy should be. There have been numerous votes, numerous hearings, such as this one. In the United States Senate, there was vote after vote that has failed in an attempt by the now majority party in the Senate to remove American military personnel from Iraq. I would suggest that the minute that it is possible for us to with- draw our troops, meaning that the Iraqi people are capable of de- fending themselves, we should do so. If there is any suggestion that there is a long-term commitment by the United States to send our military personnel back to Iraq or to do the fighting for the Iraqi people themselves, which is what is happening now, and, hopefully, we are winding that down, and the Iraqi people who believe in a more democratic society will step up, and are stepping up, to han- dle that responsibility. But the minute they can do that, we should be out of there, and they should be doing their own fighting, and they should not feel that the United States is on call to send our young people and our treasure, and put the blood of our young people and our treasure at their disposal. VerDate 0ct 09 2002 11:26 Mar 21, 2008 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00010 Fmt 6633 Sfmt 6633 F:\WORK\110TH\TEXT\40341.000 Hintrel1 PsN: SHIRL 5 So with that said, I am very anxious to hear the witnesses today, and I am also jealous of the prerogatives of the legislative branch, as we all should be, because we are here to fulfill the constitutional role that was established by our Founding Fathers and the respon- sibilities that have, of course, been given to us by the voters of this country to represent their interests. It is not all in the hands of the President and his appointees. We play a major role, and, as I say, if there had been a better spirit, perhaps examining the legal prerequisites would not be as impor- tant a discussion. So thank you very much for this hearing today, and I look for- ward to participating fully. Mr. DELAHUNT. Thank you, Mr. Rohrabacher. Now the chair of the Middle East Subcommittee, Mr. Ackerman of New York. Mr. ACKERMAN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Please do not mis- interpret my sliding further away from you as an indication of any disagreement. It appears that the microphones on either side of you have both failed. I appreciate Mr. Rohrabacher’s statement as well. He proves, yet again, that he is an equal-opportunity attack dog. I think the very fact that this is a joint hearing of both sub- committees is indicative of the fact that this is a very important area of concern to so many Members of Congress. The war in Iraq remains deeply unpopular with most Americans, as a review of any number of recent polls will tell you, or perhaps simply a review of the mail that comes into your office would suggest. So it strikes me as unwise that the President would want to go ahead and unilaterally commit the United States to a long-term se- curity agreement with Iraq without trying to get the support of ei- ther the American people or the people’s representatives. But true to form, the President has decided to go it alone on Iraq again, or so one would believe, if you take the President’s special deputy na- tional security adviser for Iraq and Afghanistan, General Douglas Lute, at his word, as you point out, Chairman Delahunt. General Lute made it clear that the White House would be flying solo on this question when he said, ‘‘We don’t anticipate now that these negotiations will lead to a formal treaty, which would then bring to formal negotiations or formal inputs from the Congress.’’ I do not think we can dispute General Lute’s view that the Presi- dent certainly has the authority to enter into an executive agree- ment with the Government of Iraq. Certainly, such agreements are a commonly used tool in American diplomacy, and such agreements are not ordinarily subject to congressional approval unless there are U.S. domestic laws that need to be amended in order for our nation to comply with the agreement. No, the issue is not a question of legal authority; it is a question of political wisdom and sustainability, and I think the President’s preferred course, as expressed by General Lute, is profoundly un- wise and unsustainable. Americans, in vast numbers, want our troops to come home. They are no longer certain, if they ever were, what we are fighting for. But I also think that most Americans, if you ask them, would agree that, even after the United States withdraws its forces from Iraq, we still need a framework for our relations with Iraq from VerDate 0ct 09 2002 11:26 Mar 21, 2008 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00011 Fmt 6633 Sfmt 6633 F:\WORK\110TH\TEXT\40341.000 Hintrel1 PsN: SHIRL

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