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The Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training Foreign Affairs Oral History Project AMBASSADOR WILLIAM E. SCHAUFELE, JR. Interviewed by: Lillian Mullin Initial interview date: November 19, 1994 Copyright 1998 ADST TABLE OF CONTENTS Background Born and raised in Ohio Yale University, Columbia University U.S. Army - WWII "Battle of the Bulge" Entered Foreign Service - 1950 Germany - Kreis (country) officer 1950-1952 Pfaffenhofen Schopenhauer Augsburg "Landrat" elections political parties Kreis officer duties German language McCloy fund Bonn chosen as capital Dusseldorf, Germany - Labor officer 1952-1953 German trade unions Labor attaché office in Bonn "Coordination" concept McCarthy influence John Paton Davies Munich, Germany - Visa/economic officer 1953-1955 Duties Political situation Charlie Thayer/Wriston program State Department - Foreign Reporting Staff 1956-1957 Comprehensive Economic Reporting Program (CERP) 1 State Department - FSI - Professor 1957-1958 Junior officer course Foreign language requirement State Department - FSI - French language student 1958-1959 Teaching methods State Department - Moroccan desk officer 1959 Casablanca, Morocco - Political/labor officer 1959-1963 Ambassador Charles Yost Trade unions CIA Local politics U.S. naval visits Moroccan border problems King of Morocco Jewish community Environment Arabs versus Berbers Colonel Oufkir - security chief Marshall Lyautey French influence U.S. military bases Non-aligned movement Moroccan pride and culture Ambassador Philip Bonsal Family experiences Bukavu, Zaire - Principal officer 1963-1964 Environment Tribal disputes Hutus versus Tutsis Operations (consulate) Rebel activities Prime Minister Tshombe Congolese National Army Political situation Belgian influence Languages spoken State Department - Congo desk officer 1964-1965 Congo War crisis Soviet and Chinese involvement 2 U.S. involvement issue Congo Working Group Cuban pilots White mercenaries U.S. hostages Belgian paratroopers rescue hostages President Mobutu State Department - Deputy office director for Central Africa 1965-1966 African Affairs Bureau reorganization Secretary of State Dean Rusk Ahmadou Ahidjo State Department - Director for Central and West African Affairs 1966-1969 Biafra (Nigeria) secession Department operations and organization Sensitivity training FSI training - comments Upper Volta (Burkina Faso) - Ambassador 1969-1971 Appointment and confirmation process Embassy staff Living accommodations Environment (Ouagadougou) Local government and politics Tribes French influence U.S. interests Peace Corps Abidjan-Ouagadougou railroad line Tuaregs Agriculture and animal husbandry Traveling USUN - New York - Fourth Committee 1971-1975 Decolonization Committee Committee coordination problem U.S. mission staffing George Bush - Permanent Representative Deputy representative on Security Council duties Kurt Waldheim Chinese at UN Other delegations and missions Consulting Soviets Saudi Arabia's Zamin Barudi 3 U. Thant - Secretary General Brian Urquhart Issues Chinese versus Soviets Security Council operations Security Council composition UN budget controversy Relations with State John Scalley Comments on operations State Department - Inspector General of the Foreign Service 1975 Ambassador case studies State Department - Assistant Secretary for African Affairs 1975-1977 Foreign indoctrination tour Recognition of Angola issue MPLA (Popular Movement for Liberation of Angola) Staffing Kissinger's Africa tour South Africa issue Nyerere Rhodesia Acting as translator (interpreter) African leaders Visits to African Presidents "Buy out" concept (South Africa) Consultations with British and others South Africa and Namibia conference (Geneva) Dialogue with South Africa Carter administration Somalia rifle request Andrew Young Secretary of State Vance Katanga gendarmes Working with Kissinger Ambassadorship to Greece aborted 1977 Greek opposition to nomination State Department - Office of Under Secretary for Management 1977 Ambassador to Poland 1978 Solidarity movement Visits to Polish cities 4 Environment Communist party Contacts with Soviets Vatican representative issue Cardinal Wyszynski Gierek Security Polish media Pope John Paul II General Jaruzelski Embassy staff Jewish community CIA Retirement INTERVIEW Q: This is an interview with retired Ambassador William E. Schaufele, Jr. This interview is taking place on November 19, 1994, on behalf of the Foreign Affairs Oral History Program. I am Lillian Mullin. Ambassador Schaufele, would you first tell us something about your background? That is, where you were born, where you came from, and where you went to school. SCHAUFELE: Well, I was born at home on December 7, 1923, in Lakewood, OH, a large suburb on the West side of Cleveland, OH. It was then a town of about 70,000. When I was about two years old, we moved about 500 yards up the same street and lived there the rest of the time we were in Lakewood. I went to the local public schools: Grant Elementary School, Emerson Junior High School, and Lakewood High School. My early life was much affected by the Depression of the 1930's, not unlike the way it affected many other families. My father, unfortunately, started a business in the fall of 1928. It failed in 1929. He was out of regular work for five years. However, we managed to survive that. We "lost" our home but managed to continue living in it, on a rental basis. Eventually, we repurchased it. My mother went back to work, part time, during this period. My father was away during the summer because he returned to work on the Great Lakes on the iron ore boats, as he had as a young man. We didn't see much of him during the summers. This all affected us, but I don't think that it was so much of a problem, since so many people went through difficult times about then. There really wasn't any significant sign of people "looking down on us" because we were having a difficult time. Perhaps in an academic sense the school experience may have counted for more than it does nowadays, though I'm not sure of that any more. Even though I was active -- very active -- in high 5 school, that was never an excuse for poor academic performance. So you tended to do the work that you had to do. I had, I think, an enjoyable childhood. My older sister was five years older than I. She graduated from high school in 1936 and became a nurse's aid. She really wanted to become a fully qualified nurse. However, she didn't realize her aspirations in that sense. She lived in Lakewood, OH, or close by for the rest of her life. She married but had no children. She died in 1994. I was fortunate enough to be a good enough student. I hoped to get a scholarship, which was the only way that I could go to college. At that time they didn't have all of the "checks" which, I gather, they have now, when you apply for a scholarship. I got four scholarships and chose to go to Yale University, which I entered in July, 1942, because of the "speeded up" program which many colleges had during World War II. It became the normal thing to go to college the year around. I entered college in the pre-med program. This was a mistake, but I didn't realize it then. I finished three semesters before I was called up to serve in the Army. I realized by the time that the three semesters were over that serving in the Army gave me some time to figure out what I might do instead of medicine. When I went into the Army, I was selected for the Army Specialized Training Program [ASTP], which was the possible fate of people who majored in the sciences, pre-med, or engineering. I went through the ASTP screening process but realized that the program was going to die, and I would have had to gain admittance to a medical school on the basis of my three semesters of undergraduate study at Yale. I didn't think that I was entitled to enter medical school right away, and I was right on both counts. Finally, after basic training and various starts and stops I was transferred to the 10th Armored Division at Camp Gordon, GA. The division went overseas in September, 1944. It was the first division to land, as a division, in Cherbourg, France, following the liberation of Normandy. We fought across northern France in the fall of 1944. This was nothing very spectacular because the big gains of the Third Army, of which we were a part, had kind of slowed down after the liberation of Paris. In many senses the highlight of my Army service was that we were caught in the "Battle of the Bulge." This happened when the division was "out of the line," being re-equipped. We were called up on December 16, 1944, I think. This was when we first heard about the German counterattack through the Ardennes Forest. We took the road to Luxembourg. There the division was split up, according to what was needed in the various parts of the line. My Combat Command, which amounted to one-third of the division, was sent to Bastogne Belgium, which I had never previously heard of. We went into Bastogne and realized that we were being attacked on all sides. We managed to hold one road open until the 101st Airborne Division came in by road. Thereafter, the German ring closed, and we were encircled for -- I'm guessing now -- nine or 10 days. We were 6 supplied from the air, when the weather was good. We took in 54 tanks and came out with three. We had heavy casualties, but morale was always surprisingly good, I thought. Nobody ever gave up, even when the battalion commander, who was standing by my tank, was hit and killed by shrapnel. That didn't have much effect on morale. We were finally relieved after "volunteering" to stay in the line until the Germans were pushed back a certain distance. The rest of the war was not uneventful, but its end was obviously in sight. It was just a matter of time, and we didn't suffer very heavy casualties from then on. We ended the war in Garmisch-Partenkirchen [Bavaria], which always amused me, after the fact, because we, the combat troops, took the town and then were supplanted by battalion, Combat Command, Army Corps, and Army headquarters. We were moved about 70 miles away. I stayed in the Army until January, 1946. The 10th Armored Division was deactivated, and the unit I was transferred to was supposed to land in Japan. I must say that I probably welcomed the news about the atomic bomb. I had no taste for a combat landing in Japan, in the face of a very determined enemy. I was discharged in January, 1946, and returned to Yale in March, 1946. I had decided by then that what really interested me was the liberal arts and humanities. I changed my course of studies to what was called a major in international relations at Yale, which concentrated on history and political science. Yale had a very good faculty then for what was a fairly rare major, although it's fairly common now. I went back to singing, as I had done before. I reactivated a small singing group. Most of my extracurricular activity was in music. The interesting and, I think, the most valuable part about getting a scholarship to Yale at that time was that you were required to work. So I worked all the time I was there. It was done on a decreasing scale. You worked more hours as a freshman. I worked as a waiter and as an assistant in the Department of Economics. Finally, I worked as an assistant to the university organist, who was also the Director of the Chapel Choir and, eventually, the Dean of the Yale Music School. So even in that sense I was still active in music. I graduated with a B.A. degree in 1948 and decided to go to Graduate School. I still had some time left under the G.I. Bill of Rights. I went to the Columbia School of International Affairs, which was a new school at that time and which required two years of study for a Master's Degree. I found the first year somewhat redundant, but the second year was useful and interesting. I lived off campus. I did not center my life around the university. I still centered my life on music. I sang with the Robert Shaw Collegiate Chorale, where I met my wife. During that period also I had to decide what to do. I suppose that it was normal, with my background in education, to take the Foreign Service examination, which I did in 1949. I passed it, except for the language part. I had never studied a modern language. German was the only foreign language that I had ever heard spoken. I enrolled in a semester course in German and then passed the language test the second time around. At that time 7 we were warned that it would take 18 months to two years to be appointed to the Foreign Service because of the backlog. I went looking for a job. In fact, I was looking for a job before I got my Master's Degree. As a result of the switch in responsibility for the occupation of Germany from the Department of Defense to the Department of State, the State Department, in its wisdom, called up, perhaps not all of us, but many of us who were waiting for appointment as Foreign Service Officers. We were offered Foreign Service Staff appointments and were sent to Germany, as "Kreis" Resident Officers. "Kreis" is the German word for county. I think that there must have been 75 or 80 of us in three groups. We didn't all become Kreis Resident Officers. Some of us became heads of American libraries in the cities. Some of us were assigned to other jobs. I served as a resident officer in a town called Pfaffenhofen, about 25 miles North of Munich, a small, agricultural town with a population of 7500. Its claim to fame -- then and now -- was that it was the center of the "Hallertau," the best hops-growing area of the world. It was there that I learned a lot about growing hops and making beer, which I wouldn't have learned otherwise. Q: When you were given the opportunity to become a Kreis Resident Officer, how many people were in the first group that you went over to Germany with? SCHAUFELE: There were 28, I think. Q: What kind of preparation did they give you in Washington before you went to Germany? SCHAUFELE: There were pretty general briefings in Washington about how the United States Government was organized to exercise its responsibilities in its zone of occupation. In Germany we went first to Frankfurt and were put up in a hotel outside the city. We studied German every day but also got briefings from officials on the staff of the High Commission in Germany [HICOG], which was then still located in Frankfurt. I would say that we must have been there for almost six weeks. I don't remember exactly how long this introduction to Germany lasted, but it was a matter of several weeks, at least. Pfaffenhofen is in Bavaria. Eleven of us went to Bavaria. When we got to the Office of the Land (State) Commissioner for Bavaria, we got a "nuts and bolts" briefing on how that office operated. Q: That was in Munich? SCHAUFELE: That was in Munich, yes. Q: Do you remember who the HICOG Commissioner for Bavaria was? SCHAUFELE: George Shuster was the Land Commissioner. He was a former President of Notre Dame University. The briefing was very general. It wasn't anything in particular. 8 Q: Were you going to take over a position that had already been set up by the military? Had there been a military officer there -- a colonel or something like that? SCHAUFELE: There had been military officers there. I had two "Kreise" -- Pfaffenhofen and Schrobenhausen, but the posts had been empty for some time. I suspect -- and I really should check on this some time -- that the last person there before me had been military, because the post had been empty long enough. It's conceivable that the military had left and that they hadn't appointed a civilian to take over the job. A lot of resident officers "civilianized." That is, they were discharged from the Army and just stayed where they were. They were military governors of "Kreise." They took their discharges from the Army and stayed on the job for the State Department. I would have to look at the Foreign Service lists of those days to determine just what the proportion was of former military governors and new people. Q: Just to add this to your review, there was another group. The military had done the same thing that the State Department had done, a year or a year-and-a-half before. At the time at various colleges and universities they were looking for graduates who wanted to go to Germany to train and take over these jobs in the High Commission. A number of people went to Germany about a year before, and they were trained in Berlin, as I recall. Then they were sent out to several of these posts. I think that most of them were sent to posts which had been "empty," but probably not in Pfaffenhofen, since there was nobody there when you got there. SCHAUFELE: I wasn't aware of that. There was a group there before our group -- about six months before -- but they were nearly all FSO eligibles, as we were. The group which followed us was also composed mostly of FSO eligibles. I am not completely sure that this was the case but feel that most of them were. I'm not sure how many in the last group actually became resident officers. I have a feeling that an awful lot of them were "fed into" the American Consulates that already existed in Germany. We knew that we were going to have to close down because negotiations were going on toward reestablishing a West German state. The Germans had adopted their constitution, which was the "trigger" which transferred authority from the U.S. military to the State Department. However, the final agreement between the three occupying powers in West Germany and the new government in Germany was not reached until 1952, when West Germany regained its sovereignty. We closed the post in Pfaffenhofen earlier than that -- at the end of 1951, I think. I was sent to Augsburg. Since the status of these entities hadn't yet changed, the resident officer in Augsburg now had responsibility for six "Kreise." We didn't know how long the transition to the sovereign West German state would take. So we agreed that I would live up the road, North of Augsburg, where I could cover the three northern "Kreise" from my house, if necessary. I went into Augsburg most days, but some days I just stayed up there and visited my "circuit." Actually, that situation only lasted about six months, less than some people expected. 9 So then I had another choice to make. I wanted to stay in Germany. My thesis in my senior, undergraduate year and my Master's thesis had both been done on different aspects of Germany. These were mostly historical. Q: Before we go any further, I would like to put you back in Pfaffenhofen, your first post as a "Kreis" officer. When you first got there, was the "Denazification Program" still going on, and did they have you continue that? SCHAUFELE: No. The "Denazification Program" was finished by the time I arrived in Germany. The people who were not eligible for public office were identified. There had to be a fair number of them in Pfaffenhofen because the town had been a good recruiting center for the original Nazi Party in 1924. There were a lot of people who had what they called, "The Golden Party Badges" in Pfaffenhofen. That is, they were in the first group of members of the Nazi Party. Those men -- they were all men, I think -- were denied any possibility of holding public office. When the United States Army occupied Pfaffenhofen, they appointed a German Social Democratic Party (SPD) member as the "Landrat," or county supervisor. I can tell you that there weren't many Socialists there, either before or after the war. But it was finally decided to elect the "Landrat." The CSU, or Christian Social Union, the Bavarian counterpart of the Christian Democratic Union [CDU], nominated an elderly, minor noble who happened to be a hop-farmer but who also happened to have a "clean" record during the Nazi period. He was already 77 when we arrived. He served as elected "Landrat" until 1958, I think. He remarried in 1952. However, when I reached Pfaffenhofen, the really "dominant" party in an ideological sense was the Bayernpartei [Bavarian Party], which was the farthest Right of any party in Bavaria, at least. It had elected one of the county's two representatives in the state legislature. The man elected just before I arrived was a young man my age who became, in effect, my closest friend. The Bayernpartei disappeared, and he went into the CSU, where he always should have been. However, he had joined the Bayernpartei for the sake of his father, who was an old Bayernpartei man. His father was a hop-farmer. My friend was a Ph.D. from the agriculture university. In effect, the Bayernpartei disappeared when we were in Pfaffenhofen, and the CSU became the dominant party. A few of the Socialists who were there -- and there were a few -- were local people. However, most of them were refugees from East Germany. Not only were many of these refugees Socialists, but a lot of them were Protestants. There was a Protestant church in Pfaffenhofen, but the population was overwhelmingly Catholic. The Catholic Vicar of Pfaffenhofen was a very important man, both religiously and politically. He was not a very nice man, as I recall. I didn't see him that often. Q: Regarding these refugees from East Germany, were there fairly large numbers of them in Pfaffenhofen and in your "Kreise"? When did most of them move to West Germany? 10

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Nov 19, 1994 Jewish community. Environment. Arabs versus Berbers. Colonel Oufkir - security chief. Marshall Lyautey. French influence. U.S. military bases.
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