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i q \ ( q f | \ q i | : 5 Bel = ie 7 ; Aine 7 a Va ah lb, i Interviews and Analysis 1988-2008 — FRANK MILLAR Northern Ireland A Triumph of Politics Interviews and Analysis 1988-2008 FRANK MILLAR s IRISH ACADEMIC PRESS DUBLIN * PORTLAND, OR First published in 2009 by Irish Academic Press 44 Northumberland Road, 920 NE 58th Avenue, Suite 300 Ballsbridge, Portland, Oregon, Dublin 4, Ireland 97213-3786, USA © 2009 by Frank Millar www.iap.ie British Library Cataloguing in Publication Data An entry can be found on request 978 0 7165 3001 5 (cloth) 978 0 7165 3002 2 (paper) Library of Congress Cataloging-in-Publication Data An entry can be found on request a All rights reserved. Without limiting the rights under copyright reserved alone, no part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in or introduced into a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form or by any means (electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise), without the prior written permission of both the copyright owner and the above publisher of this book. Printed by Biddles Ltd., King’s Lynn, Norfolk Contents Acknowledgements and Author’s Note 1 Defining the Problem — John Hume, 1988-1989 2 Catholics and the State: Obligations and Entitlements — Bishop Cahal Daly, 1989 25 ise) Desperately Seeking an Alternative — John Taylor, 1989 48 > Looking to the Other Side of the Hill — Peter Brooke, 1991 67 Oo In From the Cold —- Gerry Adams, 1994 85 6 New Labour, New Irish Policy — Tony Blair, 1995 90 7 Trench Warfare: The Good Friday Disagreement — Seamus Mallon, Chris Patten and David Trimble, 1988-1999 99 8 Suspension — Seamus Mallon, Jeffrey Donaldson, Gerry Adams and David Trimble, 2000 111 9 No More Itsy Bitsy — Tony Blair, 2002 128 10 Heir Apparent — Peter Robinson, 2002 137 11 Guns and Government — David Trimble, 2004 146 12 Back to Stormont — Dermot Ahern, Gerry Adams, Peter Hain and Ian Paisley, 2006 164 13 American Intervention — Mitchell Reiss, 2006 181 14 ‘Dr No’ Says Yes — Ian Paisley, 2006-2007 186 iv NORTHERN IRELAND: A TRIUMPH OF POLITICS 15 Ireland at Peace — Bertie Ahern, 2008 193 Epilogue: Tony Blair’s Irish Peace 208 228 Index Acknowledgements and Author’s Note fa It was Marigold Johnson, the dynamic organising force behind the British Irish Association, who first suggested that some of the original series of Irish Times interviews featured here would make a book. Old friends such as Paul (Lord) Bew and Ambassador Sean O hUiginn also encouraged the view that such a publication would make a useful tool for future students of a truly remarkable period in Northern Ireland politics. I had some reservations about the journalist recycling previ- ously published work. However, any doubts were dispelled by the commitment and enthusiasm of my editor at Irish Academic Press, the excellent Lisa Hyde. Moreover, the journalism featured here is of the kind I most enjoy, the set-piece interview allowing the subject to be heard — while hopefully discovering and learning, and informing the public debate in the process. I will always be grateful to the editor of The Irish Times, Geraldine Kennedy, and to her predecessor Conor Brady, for giving me the opportunity to do so. It is salutary to recall that Conor’s original idea back in 1988 was to have the newspaper fill a ‘political vacuum’ already of such duration as to convince many that Northern Ireland was a problem beyond solution. During Geraldine’s editorship, like- wise, there were periods of intransigence and gloom when hope and the suggestion that a breakthrough was still possible struck many as positively perverse. Both of them were driven by the strong personal conviction that this unresolved ‘national question’ could not be ignored; by the desire to reach out, increase understanding and encourage dialogue where there was none; and by the uncompromis- ing belief that future generations in Northern Ireland demanded and deserved release from a violent and divided past. However, while they may have made The Irish Times ‘the house journal’ of the talks process, neither Geraldine nor Conor did so under any illusion that this was a story that sold newspapers. That, I think, only adds to their great credit. The road travelled here begins with a drive to Pat and John Hume’s Donegal retreat a couple of days after Christmas 1988, and an incident NORTHERN IRELAND: A TRIUMPH OF POLITICS that spoke volumes in its own way for the challenge facing all the North’s politicians. Stopping at the police road-check outside Derry I asked the armed RUC officer for directions once I had crossed the bor- der. ‘I can’t help you, I’m afraid,’ he replied cheerfully. ‘Tve never been over there.’ I could hardly have imagined that the interview con- ducted that day would so inform a book twenty years later which, courtesy of the Belfast and St Andrews Agreements, would celebrate a triumph of politics and a dynamic new set of relationships within Northern Ireland, between Northern Ireland and the Republic and between the Irish and British peoples of these islands. My warm thanks then to all the politicians — plus the Churchman and the diplomat — who went on-the-record, and specifically to those featured in this necessarily limited selection: Gerry Adams, Bertie Ahern, Dermot Ahern, Tony Blair, Peter Brooke, Cardinal Cahal Daly, Jeffrey Donaldson, Peter Hain, John Hume, Seamus Mallon, Ian Paisley, Chris Patten, Ambassador Mitchell Reiss, Peter Robinson, John Taylor and David Trimble. I have been helped and sustained over the years by many political and official sources and by the camaraderie of journalistic colleagues too many to mention here. Most in any event would probably wish to remain anonymous — but they know who they are and they have my gratitude and respect. In the context of this work, however, I must thank some of those who have been crucial in making things happen. I always enjoy dealing with Richard McAuley, Gerry Adams’ key aide, even when he has officially (or even unofficially) nothing to say. Richard is invariably cheerful and welcoming, and I am always grate- ful to him for stretching already hectic schedules and timetables to help me keep mine. Likewise Ian Paisley Jnr, though a politician in his own right, was always available and enthusiastic and true to his word in all his dealings with me on his father’s behalf. Even after he gradu- ated from the Northern Ireland Office to become Tony Blair’s official spokesman, Tom Kelly was always generous with his time and deliv- ered for me big time, and on more than one occasion. The same must be said of Dermot Gallagher, the Secretary General of the Department of Foreign Affairs in Dublin, who has done me many favours and kindnesses over long years of friendship. While many can now justifi- ably claim their share of the credit for the new dispensation, our mutu- al friend the late Harold McCusker would gladly have testified that Dermot was one of the earliest modernisers. Thanks are due to Aonghus Meaney, copy editor, for making the process so painless, to the staff of The Irish Times library, and to my daughter Catherine who is a whizz on the keyboard and whose inter- ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS AND AUTHOR’S NOTE ventions prevented meltdown at several critical moments. However, it is no exaggeration to say that this work might never have materialised — and certainly that its production would have been infinitely more difficult, time consuming and challenging — without the assistance of the brilliant Mick Crowley from The Irish Times editorial systems department in Dublin. Mick initially volunteered to retrieve some of the older articles and promptly found himself landed with the role of unpaid researcher, working particular magic to transform some of the early archive material into digital form. I am hugely in his debt. My thanks, too, to Dr Steven King, Jonathan Caine, Bernard Purcell and Peter Smith QC for reading the manuscript, for their wise advice, and most especially for their friendship. And finally, and above all, to my family — to Liz and the girls, Sarah, Sophie and Catherine — for all their love and support. This book does not purport to provide a definitive account of the end of the troubles. For how could any? Myriad friends, colleagues and others have already published or are planning their own analyses of this complex, multi-dimensional story, with its national and inter- national dimensions, plots, sub-plots and intrigues set alongside con- flicting hopes, interpretations and perceptions. What I have set out to do is chart, hopefully in an accessible way, the progress from a state of no consensus to one where ‘consent’ provides the basis for constitutional stability in Northern Ireland and dictates the exclusively peaceful and democratic rules of engagement for those committed to future constitutional change. In cutting through the fog I have also ignored a tremendous amount of detailed argument and political engagement along the way. Yet here in essence is the triumph of John Hume’s constant assertion that ‘majoritarianism’ could not work in a divided society; unionism’s slow and often painful accept- ance of equality, ‘parity of esteem’ and ‘the three sets of relationships’ indispensable to a stable settlement; and, equally, nationalist and republican Ireland’s reluctant recognition of the price — in terms of the principle of consent, the withdrawal of the Republic’s territorial claim, support for policing and acceptance of the legitimacy of the British state in Northern Ireland — necessary to secure unionist acceptance of power-sharing and ‘the Irish dimension’. The book also comes with the warning that we can, and should, take nothing for granted — this reflected in the decision to change the title from ‘the triumph ...’ to ‘a triumph of politics’. It seemed entirely appropriate to conclude with interview and analysis of the Taoiseach and Prime Minister on whose watch the historic breakthrough finally occurred. From Bertie Ahern there is the reminder, spelt out in his his- Vill NORTHERN IRELAND: A TRIUMPH OF POLITICS toric address to both houses of the British parliament in May 2006, that this tender plant will require the continuing highest priority in Dublin and London. The acknowledgement that Tony Blair really did make history in Ireland is also attended by the observation that “even he ... could not have thought to end it’. It is neither insulting nor impertinent to observe that questions remain about the character and temperament of Northern Ireland’s new political elite: ‘Having seized power, will the DUP and Sinn Féin prove capable of genuinely “sharing” it for the common good? Can commitments to justice and equality have meaning without a shared commitment to reconciliation between communities still living a seg- regated “apartheid” existence behind so-called “peace walls”?’ In that context I am delighted to report that Jigsaw and the Northern Ireland Community Relations Council have made funds available to Irish Academic Press to enable the release of copies of this book to various schools, inter-faith and cross-community groups and through the Northern Ireland Council for Integrated Education. This book, finally, is dedicated to those communities on both sides still awaiting their ‘peace dividend’, and to the next generations who have the opportunity now to make Northern Ireland the still-better place it can and deserves to be. Frank Millar, London, September 2008 The publishers make grateful acknowledgement to The Irish Times for permission to reproduce Frank Millar’s interviews in this book. The publishers also gratefully acknowledge permission to reproduce an extract from Blair's Britain, 1997-2007, ed. Anthony Seldon (Cambridge University Press, 2007), pp.509-529, © Cambridge University Press, and acknowledge the reproduction of an extract from David Trimble: The Price of Peace by Frank Millar (Liffey Press, 2004, 2008).

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