NM MUFON News no 18 1994 08

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NM MUFON NEWS $1
18 14, 1994
Number 18th BIG Issue! Compiled: August
(505-897-7075) (505-242-6258)
Editor: Carolyn Duce-Ashe Producer: Debby Stark
PO Box 2786, Corrales, NM 87048 611 Lead SW, #918, Albuquerque, NM 87102
OUT-GOING STATE DIRECTOR'S A WORD FROM
MESSAGE YOUR NEW STATE DIRECTOR
By Richard Rowlette by Dan De Mar
My wife, Maria, and I have resigned as Co­ The thought never occurred to me two years
State Directors for New Mexico MUFON. We have ago, when on a whim I attended the MUFON Sym­
not done so because of any problems or conflicts posium here in Albuquerque, that I would one day
with or within the organization. We will remain be writing this letter. Sure, I had heard of
MUFON members and will still attend at least some spacemen, their ships, strange lights, little men,
local meetings. barking dogs-but I had never wondered much
As first State Section Directors for Bernalillo for about these notions because most people espous­
a number of years, and then State Directors, we ing them seemed sincere. Some were even my
have done this job for about five years. We have friends, and they hadn't told me made-up stories
grown tired, and at the same time we both have before, why would they do it now? In any case, I
other interests we wish to pursue. Thus, we feel it had not seen any such things myself and, besides,
is time to pass the task on to others. Few of you there were many other things in life that appeared
are aware of the great deal of work involved most more pressing (education, work, family and fun).
of which my wife did - in arranging monthly However, when Stanton Friedman spoke,
meetings and speakers, pot lucks and Christmas bringing out data to support his contentions and
parties, night watches, etc. detailing his own first-hand explorations of the facts
Most of you will be somewhat aware that one as he perceived them, it suddenly dawned on me
of my other interests include the general subject that there could be some seriousness to this matter
of Earth Changes. I will be devoting much more of after all. I also heard that .folks were already
my time to this subject now. I write three news- grouping together, trying to learn more, so I came
Continued on Page 2 to the local meeting, re-met old friends Richard and
Maria Rowlette, and lo-and-behold, here I am
today!
CONTENTS Now we all know there is nothing perfect in this
worlp (this could explain why Richard nominated
An Unusual Happening in Placitas . . . . . . . 7 me his successor!) and I do not expect to find
Announcements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 myself "boldly" leading us "where no one has gone
Calendar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 before." Instead, I hope to help our organization
"Cattle Mutilations on Rise capitalize on the attributes that distinguish us and
in Northern New Mexico" . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 make us unique:
.
From the Editor's Desk . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 First, NM MUFON is made up of people who
Michael Lindemann Review . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 have a wide variety of experiences, personalities,
News from Here, There and temperaments, and interests. Therefore, I will
Way Out There . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 encourage everyone to contribute according to his
1994 MUFON Symposium Review . . . . . . . 5 or her capacity, participate according to desire, and
Continued on page 2
Outgoing State Chair's Message Incoming State Chair's Message
•.. ..•
letters a month, two about this subject of Earth learn according to her or his need, with MUFON
Changes, and one, as co-editor with Carolyn Duce­ supplying the resources as we are able. We invite
Ashe, on UFOs. This last newsletter, The View input and direction from all members, voting on the
From Hermit's Peak, fulfills my need to offer my most expedient use of talents and resources.
thoughts about what UFOs are all about. At any None of us is larger than the group, which means
rate, writing three newsletters each month, plus my that we will all be required to compromise some for
related activities, does not leave lot of time to the good of the support that we receive from the
perform the duties of State Director adequately. group as a whole. This is not to say that we as
Another factor in my personal decision is that individuals cannot exercise our own freedoms,
I have now decided, in at least a general way, what because we envision small groups of individuals
UFOs are. A State Director, I believe, should be pursuing their own interests and avenues of
very open to all aspects of the UFO enigma and research with a certain amount of autonomy,
should present all views, as we have tried to do receiving full support form the group in exchange
over the years. I now find myself unable to for sharing their results and data with the group.
maintain this open mind. Huge areas of the UFO Second., we live in a unique area that has been
puzzle no longer interest me and represent to me unrivaled in the number· and quality of "sightings"
only diversions from the root question. and, as such, our responsibility to the data as it
Dan De Mar has agreed to assume the presents itself should become more mature. This
responsibilities of State Director. New Mexico can only happen when we can achieve a level of
MUFON has had excellent growth locally, and, preparedness that encourages not only a quick
thanks to the help of others, we are in a much response but may actually lead us to be able to
better position than many other state organizations. anticipate an event or "control" a circumstance.
Thanks to the efforts of Peter Limone as past Chief This is the area that makes most sense to me and
State Investigator we have the groundwork and I find it exciting.
equipment in place to accept and make investiga­ Finally, thanks to those individuals who have
tions. And, thanks to the work of Carolyn Duce­ devoted their time and resources to this group in
Ashe and Debby Stark, we have an outstanding the past and who have built a firm foundation from
monthly publication that has drawn interest over a which the rest of us can proceed. We enjoy a
wide area. Although Peter has resigned as Chief stable, well founded, workable group of people
State Investigator, Carolyn and Debby plan to dedicated largely to the same purpose. We are
continue the newsletter. lucky to enjoy a healthy organization and I hope
When I took over as State Section Director, the you will unite with me in continuing the hard work
local organization had only $15 in funds. Thanks so that this luck will continue long into the future.
largely to the efforts of the past State Director, Please join me.
Teresa Asenap, in holding the 1992 MUFON
symposium here, our financial situation is much
improved. We have more equipment and supplies
than most state ·organizations. And we have a
book and video library that should be very useful to
those interested in studying UFOs more closely.
If NM MUFON is to continue to grow and
prosper, Dan will need the active support and
assistance of all of you who can give it. I hope
some of you will come forward to give him that
help. Dan is very interested in doing an
outstanding job for MUFON, but he won't be able
to do this alone. Please do volunteer to assist him.
FROM THE EDITOR'S DESK newsletters Project: Shift, Poor Richard's or The
View From Hermit's Peak write: Richmar Group,
by Carolyn Duce-Ashe P.O. Box 14956, Albuquerque, NM 87191. Richard
also spoke on UFOs and Earth changes at the
Why didn't we have an issue for July? Several New Age Connection in Albuquerque on August 4.
reasons:
As we reported in our last issue, we did not Be on the watch for ...
have a local meeting and we don't like to publish
when that happens. As it turned out, a lot of things Karl T. Pflock's 191-page monograph, Roswell
happened during that month that we can report on In Perspective, is now available from the Fund for
now. UFO Research (P.O. Box 277, Mount Ranier, MN
Also, Beckie Minshall and I went to the 20712-0277) for $25 plus $3 postage and handling.
MUFON Symposium (see related article) and I Upcoming MUFON events may include a book­
wanted to report on that. signing party with Karl and a viewing of Richard
Remember, no subscriber will have missed an Hoagland's new videotape on Moon anomalies.
issue because you subscribe by the issue, not the Watch your newsletter for dates, time and place.
month. In future issues we will include updates on the
A double thank-you to Richard and Maria Taos Hum, an interview with Peter Lindemann, a
Rowlette for their work as State Co-Directors. review of Karl Pflock's monograph, and more!
They were among the six original members of NM
MUFON five years ago. Richard served as Berna­
llilo State Section Director for two years and then Calendar
in 1992 he and Maria took over as Co-Directors
when Teresa Brito-Asenap resigned. Few realize August NM MUFON meeting: Thursday, August
the amount of time and effort it takes to run a state 18 at 7 p.m. at Arts-In-Transition. David
organization. We acknowledge the many hours of Crossley will give a short presentation and an
work they have both given to establish the chapter organizational discussion will be held.
and to make it grow.
Welcome to our new NM State Director Dan Albuquerque Intergalactic Reception: Saturday,
DeMar. Dan has been serving as Bernallilo State August 27, 5-10 p.m. at the top level of the
Section Director since last summer. Now he will be Convention Center parking structure. This
heading up the reorganization and has lots of good event includes entertainment, sci fi book fair,
ideas. Congratulations and good luck! We support UFO landing strip, "space food", and more.
you all the way! Admission is $5 per carload, including parking.
A big thank-you also to Peter Limone who For info call 842-9918. We don't know how
recently stepped down as NM MUFON Chief Inves­ UFO related this is (despite the "UFO Landing
tigator. During the two years that Peter served he Strip" .. ), but we should go with open minds,
.
instigated an investigators training program while be Wl lling to talk about MUFON to those
..
learning the ropes himself, e�tablished a format for ·nterested, and just have fun.
.
writing up sighting reports,· ·and put together an . . .. . . . � .
equipment kit for use by MUFON investigators.
We're glad to report that he will still be involved in
MUFON and hope to see him· at meetings and in September NM MUFON Meeting: NEW
the field. MEETING LOCA TIONI Beginning in
September we will be meeting at the
Discovery Bookstore at 1540 Juan Tabo
Did you catch this?
NE in Albuquerque. This new location is
larger and has many facilities. Date and time
Richard Rowlette and his Richmar Group was
have not yet been determined but watch for
featured in an article. by Rosemary Ellen Guiley in
POSTCARDS in the mail (sent to local
the August Fate magazine. The article, The New
members) which will give you all the info.
Millenium, is on page 14. For information on
·
Richmar Group or for sample copies of his
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.ad� ountdh aptr edatwoorusl dn'tM otivation?
1994 MUFON SYMPOSIUM there is some human (government?) involvement.
And there seems to be a kind of virtual reality
The First and the Last
scenario that is occurring. Finally, and perhaps
most important, there is clear alien interest in the
by Carolyn Duce-Ashe
human soul.
Beckie Minshall and I attended the MUFON Yes, I bought a copy of Taken and have read
it since the symposium. I recommend it as a useful
Symposium in Austin (July 8-10 ). As it happened,
companion and contrast to John Mack's recent
the first speaker, Karla Turner, and the last
speaker, Jack Kasher, were my personal favorites. book, Abduction - Human Encounters with Aliens.
Turner's book looks at the bad and the good and
More about each later.
asks astute questions rather than proposing fuzzy
As Assistant State Director for New Mexico
philosophical answers to an as yet incompre-
MUFON, I attended Friday's all-day meeting for
. hensible phenomenon.
state directors. It was interesting to hear a progress
Saturday's schedule also included James
report by Dan Wright on his MUFON abduction
Harder speaking on the achievements of APRO
transcription project and to learn that possible
and George Knapp on 'What the Russians Kno�
upcoming plans including funding for MUFON,
about UFOs" (they· gave Knapp a secret MJ-12-
CUFOS and the Fund for UFO Research by the
Bigelow Foundation. · type document called Thread 3 and some "alien"
.. . · . artifacts). ·
The Friday evening reception was gala since
Michael Lindemann spoke on "Human-Alien
it commemorated the 25th anniversary of MUFON,
Contact as 'Meta-Lever' of History" with typical
complete with fajitas, live music and a UFO-shaped
bravado, fireworks and humor, producing a
ice sculpture. But it was most fun to meet old and
new friends from Ohio,. Texas and elsewhere and standing ovation. (A meta-lever is a disruptive
influence capable of world change.)
to network with researchers and speakers. In fact,
Linda Cortile's talk was a rehash of the
the networking and brainstorming opportunities be­
basically flawed Budd Hopkins case that gave us
fore and after scheduled talks and sometimes late
no new information or reason to hope that anything
into the night were: probably the most fruitful aspect
further can be known about this case. Even one of
of the symposium for me. Being there at the Hyatt
the female "eye-witnesses" has recently died.
and having time to talk to others was a real treat.
Sunday's roster of speakers began with
(As you know, the speakers' talks are all in the
Yvonne Smith, abduction researcher, who spoke
Proceedings,. edited by Walt Andrus and Irena
about her work with Jesse Long and his brother
Scott, so lectures are all available for later study.)
John.
Saturday's speaker schedule began with Karla
I enjoyed Rev. Barry Downing's talk on "UFOs
Turner, abductee and abduction researcher. I had
and Religion: Of Things Visible and Invisible" very
read her book Beyond the Fringe and had seen her
much. He is incisive, humorous and openminded.
at the Whole Life Expo in Albuquerque in June.
I look forward to reading some of his books.
But I was anxious to find out more about her recent
Rev. Downing stated that "a UFO is a scientific
research. "Expanding the Parameters of the Alien­
animal with a few religious warts," "life is a balance
Human Abduction Agenda" was the title of her talk.
between the visibre ··and. the invisibie " "Science
Her new book, Taken-Inside the Alien-Human '
Abduction Agenda, documents this (I . saw more doesn't answer our UFO questions but neither
does religion," and that "UFOs are capable of
people at the symposium. carrying this book around
having brought about the Biblical religion."
than any other) and I agree with her statement,
·Next we had Bob Dean, who spoke of his
"Abduction therapy is not abduction research."
knowledge of the infamous "assessment" document
She gave a thoughtful and well organized presen­
during his NATO years. His presentation mainly
tation of som� ten facts she has gleaned from her
work. . These facts point out that we know "very­ centered on his own spiritual transformation which
he attributes to years of intensive study of history,
little about the alien agenda--its nature is designed
philosophy, theology, hard sciences, art, music and
to keep us from understanding." We don't know
mythology. He spoke of our need to "grow up" as
what they are • but we know they are often liars;
a race. He also talked about the coming Earth
they can control us and give us false scenarios;
changes and an accompanying paradigm shift
their· physical aims and procedures are not
which he feels will be "cataclysmic but glorious."
necessarily good; and this manipulation results in
This talk elicited standing ovation Number Two.
both good and bad human responses. We know
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George Wingfield's topic was "Crop Circles-Is
MICHAEL LINDEMANN Speaks Again
There a UFO Connection?" According to him, yes,
they are "intimately linked." He gave a detailed a brief review by Debby Stark
history of circles and UFO sightings and other
anomalous events since the beginning of the phe­ If I had an acquaintance who saw something odd
nomenon. He admitted that to date, "we have no in the sky and came to me wanting to know more
definite litmus test to tell if a crop circle is man­ about UFOs, what author would I recommend she
made or not," but he added (out of bitter exper­ read? Jacques Vallee? Not right away, he's too
ience) that "hoaxers have no respect for science!" deep. Linda Howe? Too scary, unless the UFO my
As I said in the beginning of this article, the friend saw was towing a cow. Colin Andrews, Ralph
last speaker was Jack Kasher, professor of physics Noyes or George Wingfield? No crop circles in New
and Central Regional Director for MUFON. His Mexico. Budd Hopkins, John Mack or Karla Turner?
presentation, "A Scientific Analysis of the Video­ If she'd been abducted, maybe, but unlikely (and
tape Taken by Space Shuttle Discovery on Shuttle Turner's work is dark and cautionary lately). Stanton
Flight STS-48" was fascinating because Kasher, a Friedman or Randle and Schmitt? Too focused on
consultant to Lawrence Livermore Labs and a "Star one old case.
Wars" scientist, explained in a clear, step-by-step No, I'd advise her first to look into the works
fashion how those "ice particles" had to ·be ·a (writings, interviews, audio' and video tapes) of
"spacecraft," based on the mathematics of velocity, Michael Lindemann. To my mind he has cleary
acceleration, stopping and changing direction, and become the USA Today of the UFO field. His
the location of exhaust valves on the shuttle. coverage. is wide but, probably due to time
His arguments were persuasive and conclu­ constraints, not very deep.
sions electrifying-that "it had to be spacecraft and This was just fine with the audience of about 300
the incident shows a h.ostile act of war." This Lindemann addressed on July 14, his second
implies that NASA has lied to us again. But if presentation this year of a wide array of facts, figures
scientific research such as Jack Kasher's can be and pictures. He had less newspaper coverage
extensively disseminated the lid of secrecy may announcing his talk, but more TV and particularly
-soon be lifted. radio appearances before hand. There was even an
The symposium ended with only a one-hour unidentified radio woman sitting in the front row taping
Q&A session which was not nearly enough, in my his talk.
opinion. Attendees were not allowed to ask their If you saw him earlier this year, there's nothing
questions from the floor--the question had to be that I noticed that was new in this recent talk. I
written down and submitted prior to the session. understand that he introduced some new topics at the
But perhaps this saved time, allowing more ques­ MUFON Symposium in Austin (see Carolyn's article
tions to be asked within the one-hour time period. about that elsewhere in this issue), but there he was
This brief synopsis of the symposium is addressing an audience that was more sophisticated
published in hopes that you will be stimulated to in the ways of the UFO than he had in Albuquerque.
order the 1994 Proceedings (which were dedicated Lindemann hobnobs with a lot of people in the
to Stanton Friedman, who was- reportedly upset field and in his presentations he mentions them and
that he was not asked to speak this year) and - their work so that audience members can refer to
study the lectures in more detail. To order them, them afterward. Indeed, a week or so after his talk,
send $20 plus $1.50 for postage and handling to a visiting Californian who saw Lindemann interviewed
Mutual UFO Network, 103 Ol�towne Road, Seguin, on ·TV and attended the talk, called me (from
Texas 78155-4099. California!) for more information on Roswell books.
I noted that after Lindemann's talk when he
opened up to questions, he was asked some good
ones--and he wasn't afraid to say that he didn't know
the answers. I was rather surprised that he didn't
know anything yet about Hoagland's latest work, but
then it's still so new the paint's still wet.
VOULA CHRONIS So, the next time Michael Lindemann is in town
o..n., (he has family here), round up your friends and go
3916-E Cartisle N.E.
Albuquerque, NM 87107 see him. Everyone will have a good time and your
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AN UNUSUAL HAPPENING friends that I wasn't staying to see what was going
to happen-or some such comment.
IN PLACITAS -Can you help?
After I ran out and away from the craft 1 got
away from the light and realized also that my
by Roberta Griffith
friends weren't following me as well as that 1 was
very alone and possibly in worse danger. I planted
My name is Roberta Griffith and I was born in
my feet in the sand and stopped and began to tum
Ohio in 1952. Due to my childhood asthma my family
around. At this point two of my friends caught up
moved to Albuquerque in 1963. I lived in there on and
to me and held me by both arms yelling for me to
off until 1979, when I moved back to Ohio.
stop and be quiet, saying that I would scare the
My experience began in 1970 when I was 18
occupants away. So I stopped and the three of us
years old. Three friends and I were invited to
(one friend is still standing under the craft looking
camp at a commune that was between the Sandias
up at it) turned and looked back up at the craft.
and Placitas. We picked a secluded area about
We now noticed that we could see over the lip
one-fourth mile away from the main house, beside
or rim of the craft to a dome on top. There were
the stream (we were determined we were going to
also square-shaped windows on the dome, and
rough it as much as possible).
one was lit from inside. The color was kind of a
After being there several ·weeks we were
invited to attend a party and singing around the green-blue inside, and I could see that there was a
kind of dashboard thing by the window-the view
campfire one night with the people from the main
we had was kind of curved so I could see back
house. Nothing unusual happened except that 1
beyond the window against the wall. We all moved
had the strong feeling that I was being watched-at
to see if we could get a better look but we couldn't.
that time I even ran and huddled up to my boy­
We also didn't see any occupants or really much of
friend, feeling very uneasy (thinking back on it).
anything else.
The party began to wind up .�round 1 :30 am, so my
After standing and observing it for maybe 15
three friends and I began to walk back to our
minutes we saw it begin to lift up and get maybe
campsite. One of us had carried a Coleman lan-
50 feet up when the motor came back on and the
_tem to light our way-luckily because it was noted
light went off. Two red lights came on on the rims
at that time it was a moonless night and very dark.
· opposite each other and it began to go straight up
As we walked we began to hear a noise like a
a little faster now. When it was maybe a few miles
whirring maybe or a noise like if you whistle and hum
straight up from us the whole thing turned bright
both, that kind of sound, coming from above us. We
red and it went very fast and turned white. At that
all looked up to see a disc-shaped object coming
within seconds it was very fast, it took on the
down over us. A bright blue/white, very intense light
appearance of a star.
came on in the midbottom, shining directly on us.
We walked the rest of the way back to our
The craft was still dropping lower to us. At one point
camp-four very stunned witnesses. We could still
I panicked because I thought it was going to land on
see it as we laid down to sleep, so we pulled our
us, it was that low. At approximately 25 to 30 feet it
sleeping bags out one end of the tent and watched
stopped and began to hover over us, and the motor
it until the sky began to get light, and the object
noise stopped also as it hovered.
just faded with the· day. ·
It was so low I could distinctly see the·
The craft was maybe 30 feet across and was
underneath of the craft and could see that it was
a typical disc-shaped with a thick rim around the
rivetless, as well as had a pewterlike color to it.
middle.
The light was built into the body of the craft, not
· The next day I went to the main house and
attached to. I began to realize that it might not be
told one of the women about our experience. She
too smart to look directly up into the light because
told me that sightings were common, and assumed
it was so intense, so I looked down and away from
it was because they couldn't be detected by the
it, noting that the cactus and tumbleweeds . had
radar from Kirtland or Manzano, because it was
intense, amazingly bright shadows.
down in the valley, and they moved below the
At some point-maybe five minutes went by
Sandia range. (I'm not sure if that's true, that's just
(?) I began to panic because I had previously read
what she told me). She also said that one night
the book, The Interrupted Journey (the Betty and
they observed five at one time. Either that
Barney Hill story) and began to think that they (the
afternoon or the next my boyfriend and I sighted a
occupants) could do the same things to us that the
disc-shaped object in the middle of the day.
Hills experienced. I started running, yelling at my
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I've put my experience in writing for one four brothers, Ritchey, Paul, Randy, and I don't
reason, and it's not to convince anyone, but remember his younger brother's name), and then
hopefully to find the friends that were involved in there was Rick P., and the third friend was named
this sighting so I can compare their experience to Paul (I didn't learn his last name). At one point
what I remember about mine. I've had three another friend named Ivy was there, but she left
regressions to try to uncover what happened that before the sighting occurred.
night as well as understand other experiences I've I would be interested in hearing from anyone
had throughout my life. else who had sightings as well, in the Placitas
I've used my maiden-name in this report be­ area, 1970.
cause I know it's the only name my old friends will Please write to me through the NM MUFON
know. My friends' names were Robby P. (he had Newsletter, at PO Box 2786, Corrales, NM 87048.
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And, finally, sad news retrieved from the
asks "experts" about their perceptions of timetable for
MUFONET BBS. It was originally sent to Don Ecker
technological advances. In their August issue, one of
the experts is Col. John Alexander, PhD., retired, who and Vickie Cooper on Ecker's "Ask UFO Magazine"
BBS echo: "Dear Don and Vicki, My husband of five
has addressed our group in the past. Some very
interesting questions are asked, but what's potentially months, K. 0. Learner II shot and killed himself
more interesting is that the article is on page 34 and Monday, May 16, 1994. I am devastated and I will not
be back on the board for a while. I think my husband
35, but Wired "forgot" to· put page numbers on those
was one of your biggest fans and I can't bring myself
. ·pages!
to listen to your show or read your magazine right
Also in the August '94 issue of Wired, on again
now. Please say a prayer for him and for me and the
unmarked page 39, another regular column starts,
kids. We were there with him when he shot himself
this one on unusual technology we'd all love to have.
and we are really having a hard time right now. Thank
One featured technotoy is a Night Sight, a "cool
you for all the enjoyment and information you gave
Russian nightscope," just the thing to watch for UFOs
my husband through the years. Sincerely, Debbie
at night, or watch for cow-snatching mutilators. Prices
Jordan Learner, Mrs. Karl Osburn Learner II"
and a phone number are given.
[Note: Debbie Jordan is, of course, "Kathy Davis"
Later on in the same issue, this time on (marked)
page 99, in an article about Microsoft's other founder, of Intruders. The "board" she refers to is a computer
bulletin board accessible by modem, and the "show"
is a mention that the billionaire is one of the private­
is Ecker's Sunday-night UFO show broadcast over
sector rescuers of SETI's. You'll recall that Congress
cab!e satellite radio· {not to be confused with
canceled their funding in Octobei of 1983.
"Dreamland").]
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