Jason Rice—A New Insider Season 12 Anthology

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by  Jason Rice

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Cosmic Disclosure; Jason Rice — A New Insider Season 12,
Episode 5

JAY WEIDNER: Today we have a special guest. His name is Jason Rice, and he
claims to have been in the Secret Space Program. Hey, Jason.
JASON RICE: Hello, Jay. Thank you for having me.
JAY: Yeah, it's great to have you. Why are you personally coming forward?
RICE: I'm coming forward now because there are thousands of others out there that
have been through this, that have gone on the 20 and Back program. And I'm not just
talking about Americans. We're talking globally. And some of the people that did not
come back, their stories need to be told. Whether they were soldiers or scientists or
just civilians, they provided and gave the ultimate sacrifice for humanity. And their
stories need to be told. We need to have full disclosure. The people need to be aware
of some of the things that humanity has done. It's time to heal and to grow from that.
JAY: So let's start with the beginning. You had a behavior problem. Because you
were constantly being an escape artist.
RICE: I was. I kept getting brought back by the police or strangers. I had my own dog
tags--if lost, please call--on a chain. And so the last time that I was brought back by
the same police officer, he told my parents that if they didn't keep me contained and
keep control of where I was, that I was going to be taken into state custody.
JAY: And this caused your parents to freak out. Because they're afraid of the police
and child protection services and all those people coming and investigating them--
totally understandable.
RICE: Understandable--of course, they were terrified. And they found a behavioral
program at one of the local universities and enrolled me in that.
JAY: What happened there?
RICE: They would give us a command. You know, say--hey, I want you to stay in
this chair. Don't get up. And of course, there are toys everywhere in the room, all
kinds of interesting distractions. And so of course, I get up. And as soon as I got up,
they picked me up, put me in a box, locked the box, and then would wait. And of
course I'd scream and holler and yell and kick and thrash. And as soon as I stopped,
they would reach in, pull me out, set me on the same chair, and give me an M&M.
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JAY: So they were starting to form your personality at that point.
RICE: That's correct.
JAY: And they were using candy and toys to entice you into whatever they wanted
you to change--I guess change your behavior--to control it. And that program turns
out to be one of the recruiting arms for the MILAB program. And that's where I was
identified as an intuitive empath.
JAY: When you say intuitive empath, what do you mean?
RICE: An intuitive empath is somebody that feels or knows something without having
been told, without having experienced it before. It's an ability to pick up on emotions.
It's not mind reading. But it's being able to feel what others are feeling and being able
to intuit why they're feeling that way or how something is supposed to work or how
it's supposed to go together. People have termed or called it psychic, but it's not really
the same thing.
JAY: You eventually had to go to school.
RICE: That's correct.
JAY: So you went to school, first grade or whatever. Did anything happen to you
when you went to school?
RICE: So after getting into school, what would happen is that somebody would either
come in the morning or towards the middle of the day. And I'd get picked up to allow
me to get out of school. And then, they would take me to an underground facility or
just a regular building to do the training that they had us go through.
JAY: Was there a break between the university program and this new program, which
was I guess MILAB, is what you're saying?
RICE: That's correct.
JAY: Explain to our viewers what MILAB is.
RICE: The MILAB program is a military abduction program. Which is one of the
agencies responsible for recruiting, training, indoctrinating, and preparing children for
special programs within the Secret Space Program and other classified projects. I
thought, at the time, I was just getting to go out on a special field trip.
JAY: And you're with other children?
RICE: Other children--between three and five other kids at a time. That's what I
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remember. And they had us working on very simple puzzles. The caveat was that we
weren't allowed to talk. But we had to work in teams of two, sometimes three, and
work together to put this puzzle together. And what they were doing is, they were
training us with our intuitive empath abilities in teamwork. Progressed on up through
smaller pieces, more pieces. And again, we couldn't talk. We had to nonverbally
communicate and trust and work with our intuitive empath abilities up to the point
where it was a single colored puzzle with thousands of pieces that were working
together. They also included blindfolding to work together so that we could work our
intuitive empath abilities and teamwork.
JAY: Would it be fair to say that they are looking for that quality in these kids?
RICE: That's absolutely right. They're looking for that quality in people because it
makes for better soldiers, better operatives. You can walk into a room and pick up on
a situation--five or six different people all at one time--and be able to read the
scenario, read the environment.
JAY: Did you notice a refining process with these kids and you, where you could see
that some were not going to make it and others were going to go forward or anything
like that?
RICE: Yes--there were people that just weren't picking up on it. They weren't
progressing. And usually, those children didn't stay, didn't come back. Because they
used medications on us for improving our intuitive empath abilities as well as to
facilitate forgetting--not remembering where we'd gone or what we'd done, and then
implanting us with false screen memories.
JAY: Why would they do that?
RICE: They didn't want to have the public aware of what they were doing. I mean,
they were taking kids out of school to do whatever they needed them to do. If the
world had found out that they were taking kids out of school to go work on training
and that they were injecting them with either experimental or non-market
medications, people would be up in arms.
JAY: Was there any kind of trauma associated with this?
RICE: Yes.
JAY: Well, tell me about that.
RICE: Yeah, so some of the training involved finding out our individual fears and
then flooding us with those fears. For instance, if one was afraid of drowning.
Because that, they would use virtual reality, augmented reality. And again, this is in
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the late '70s, long before any of it was ever out on the market. And so as a child, it
was like--wow, this is an amazing toy. This is a great adventure. Except for the fact
that they were trauma training, is what they were doing. So they find out all of my
fears, everything that I was afraid of--whether it was a little or a lot--and then put me
into a virtual reality where I couldn't tell the difference between what was real and
what was the virtual. And then, I'd go through and have to experience--whether it was
death by fire or getting shot or bludgeoned or drowning or any number of horrible
ways to die. They'd flood you with it to desensitize you to it. And these are children.
JAY: When you got home after these experiences, did your parents notice that you
were messed up?
RICE: Well, they would go through and mind wipe and give you a screen memory. So
instead of getting burned up in a fire all day five or six times, I would remember being
at an aquarium in my conscious mind. But the nightmares were still there. I'd still
have nightmares. I'd still have periods where I wouldn't eat or periods that I was
moody. So of course, my parents had nothing to base it on. So to them, I was just a
kid growing up. During the night, they would take us out of our homes. They would
take us to closed-down malls for the evening. And then, we would either do small
combat arms, immediate action drills, capture the flag type thing where we would
have small pistols. And we wore a suit that, if it was contacted by the infrared beam, it
would freeze the limb if it was a grazing shot. If it was a shot right to a fatal area, then
the entire suit would freeze up. And they'd have to reset the program because that was
a simulated kill. They would put us against each other. And we found out quickly who
had more strength in their ability for tactics. And so what happened is, it turned into
not every man for himself. But it turned into teaming up with other people and then
ganging up on one person.
JAY: So kind of creating a self-organization. So you guys are organizing yourselves
in a symbiotic way instead of having it be top-down.
RICE: That's correct.
JAY: That's very serious training.
RICE: Very traumatic, it's very traumatic.
JAY: How long do this period of your training last?
RICE: It went on for about eight years until I was 13.
JAY: All right, so now you're 13. You've got this training. They wouldn't be doing it
for no reason. It costs a lot of money. They're investing a lot in you. What happened at
this point?
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RICE: That was the year that they took me out of training and put me into active
service.
JAY: What happened? How did this--did they tell you they were going to take you
into the Secret Space Program, or what do they do?
RICE: Well, this particular day, I was going to meet them down the street from
school. Now, according to the rest of the school, I was just skipping. But I was down
the street. I met them just like any of the many other times. Got in the back of the car.
They didn't tell me that I was going to be disappearing, that was going to be going
into active duty.
JAY: They did not tell you.
RICE: Did not--they just took me.
JAY: That was a surprise.
RICE: Surprise--guess what. I hope you said goodbye to everybody this morning. I
don't have all the memories from my first 20 and Back. They haven't returned yet. 20
and Back program is based on the use of advanced technology where you provide
service for 20 years. And at the end of that service, you are medically and quantum
age regression back to the time point where you originally entered into service. And
then, they take you back in time to the point in time that you originally went into
service. But you still lived out and had those 20 years of service that you provided in
whatever program. And there's a number of secret space programs that utilize this
technology.
JAY: And did they take care of you when you came back?
RICE: When I got back, part of the going away present package that they left included
programming for me to want to go into the military service. And seemingly overnight,
I developed an interest in the military. I wanted to go to college, wanted to get an
education. I was a driven individual at that point.
JAY: Did you go to high school, I assume?
RICE: I went to high school and maintained 3.9 GPA all through high school. And I
was awarded a medical scholarship for the Air Force ROTC. And I was awarded an
engineering scholarship for the US Army. And I chose the engineering.
JAY: And did you finish your four years?
RICE: I finished my four years.
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JAY: And then, you went into the military.
RICE: The military 20 and Back that I went on was right at the start of my US Army
career. The second 20 and Back, I have a lot more of those memories. I was
commissioned the same day I graduated from college which was in December of
1996. And two months later, I was given a change to my orders. Which my original
orders were to report in to Fort Leonard Wood to attend the officer basic course. And
the day before I was supposed to leave, I got new orders assigning me to the Army
Research Office up in North Carolina. I had no idea why or what, no explanation for
it.
JAY: So two months after you started your active duty, they grabbed you again.
RICE: Again.
JAY: Why are all these people now coming forth with memories, but it seems like it
takes 15, 20 years for the memories to surface? Why do you think that is?
RICE: Well, for some reason or another, the memories are always there. For me, one
of them was at the age of 33 which happens to be 20 years after my 20 and Back. I
went in for outpatient surgery. And coming out of it, I was still under a lot of the
anesthesia. And I don't recall this. But the nursing staff told me I was talking about
being in space and being a part of a program and going out and doing things. And of
course, when they were telling me this, I'm like--wow, I don't remember saying any of
that. And at the time, it was just one of those--OK, that was just the anesthesia talking.
Since then, I've realized that--OK, that was another sign.
JAY: Should people who are running these programs be worried about people now
having the first wave of memories coming back?
RICE: I think the people that are running these programs--part of the technology that
they use for the mind wipe, they know that there's 1% to 3% that the mind wipe will
not work on. And they have returning memories a lot faster than mine were. It worked
on me. Anybody that was a part of the Secret Space Program were tampered with--
every one of us.
JAY: Well, I just want you to know that I'm really happy that you've decided to come
forth and tell your story. And we're going to be telling your story in great detail as we
proceed here in later shows. But let me ask you. Are you afraid that someone is going
to stop you from speaking out?
RICE: I have concerns for the safety of those that I love and care about. But having
been through and remembered the things that I've gone through, I feel more
compelled to bring this into the light than I am concerned about my own safety.
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