How to Lay Girls Guide Get a domain & site: To Getting Laid! Back to Homepage Table of Contents Update: 31/05/00: Links at bottom of page I've added some links at the bottom of this page to some usefull websites which are worth a visit. Before you begin: Common abbreviations and acronyms - all acronyms used in the guide explained. Estonian translations - if you want to seduce some Estonian girls:) General rules: The 3 seconds rule - the most important rule you'll ever learn, say bye-bye to hesitation. Look and feel your best - all the time! Be the Alpha/Dominant male - be in charge of your surroundings. Including the girls:) Do my looks matter? - yes they do, but not nearly as much as you think. Nice guys vs jerks - the key difference between the two explained. Good traits to have - or develop, to be a successful player. It all comes down to satisfaction - read why you actually have the upper hand with the most beautiful of women. Women want good sex - so make sure you do her right:) Should you express or contain your sexual desires? - a moot point, read why. Wanna play the dating game? - ... um... let's see now... The rules with your wingman - if you approach girls together with a friend / wingman, make sure you agree on the rules. Getting started: On confidence - and getting started with approaching girls. Experiment! - don't think twice, don't look back, just have fun!. http://tranceboy.fws1.com/index.html (1 of 8) [8/3/2002 9:28:33 PM] How to Lay Girls Guide Casual meetings vs pick-ups - the pros and cons. At a party - a mild alternative to the 3s rule. Just say "Hi" - then continue with one of the two tactics described in the article. Talk to girls - everywhere! How to initiate a conversation - here's your back-up, in case your primary parashoot doesn't open. Talking to her = echoing her - a stripped down version of Trance words and Eliciting values. Fluff talk - the essential skill of talking about nothing, and how to evolve from that. The "don't"s of fluff talk - what to avoid. Reading body language - its like reading people's thoughts, it'll blow you away:) Mirroring - the Jedi mind tricks of body-language explained. Kinaesthetics - make touching the girls your second nature, even (and especially!:) if you just met them, they'll love it:) Approaching and making them interested: Where to meet girls - the most popular places for a pick-up. If she seems unapproachable - then maybe everyone thinks so... and she's all alone. General guidelines on approaching - a few pointers and examples to get you started. Demonstrate value and personality - the basic premise of seduction. The importance of a first impression - or relative unimportance, depending on whether you're an AFC or a PUA:) Pace and lead - and demonstrate understanding to increase rapport. Approaches Simple approaches - examples of various conversational approaches. l The cold approach - not a good approach, unless you combine this with the GM style. l The collision approach - either let her walk by... or "bump" into her:) l The available chair approach - that empty chair next to a HB looks inviting...:) l The crappy sketch-artist approach - because women like artists right?:) l The dramatic approach - catch everyone's attention... including her's:) l The cellular approach - to choose any topic of discussion. l The familiar approach - act like you already know her, or fool her into thinking she knows you:) l Pez opener - a really "sweet" opener by Mystery:) l You look stunning approach - Ross Jeffries' classic, careful though, not intended for use with the 9s and 10s:) l Pacing the ongoing reality - a simple way to get instant rapport. l Should I buy her a drink? - read why you'd better avoid it. l Should I ask for her name? - so that you'd know what name to yell when you're sleeping with your hand?:) l Leech off someone else's crash and burn - anything is fair in love and war:) l If she is working - a waitress, a nurse, a girl at the cashier - this one is universal. l If you just have to use a pick-up line - they suck, unless you show you know they suck. l "I like..." game as an opener - you can use this one anywhere. l Mr Smooth technique - the game-show host style technique of a Japanese PUA explained step by step. l The questions game - a shortcut to sex-talk and kissing. l Gimmicks - palm-reading Use a gimmick to get going - handwriting analysis, tarot cards, palmistry - "crap" you say?:) l Palm-reading - why should you use it? - l Reading the lines in general - a do-it-yourself guide to becoming a gypsy:) l Reading the line of Fate - yes please:) l http://tranceboy.fws1.com/index.html (2 of 8) [8/3/2002 9:28:33 PM] How to Lay Girls Guide Reading her love-life - uuuhh... sounds interesting:) l Reading the line of Heart - good, good:) l Reading the mount of Venus - oh no... where is that?!:) l A sample reading routine - a few examples to give you the general idea. l Night-clubs and dancing Night-clubs vs other places to meet girls - a few words of warning. l How to switch to the right mindset - set yourself apart from "death row". l Asking for a dance - just honour the traditions. If you want to get nowhere:). l About dancing - unless you have the skills of a back-up dancer, don't waste your energy. l Slow dancing - an exception to the "don't waste your energy rule" above:) l Fast dance to slow dance - a superiour technique of transitioning to a slow-dance no matter the music:) l After the dance - now that you've got her, don't let her slip away. l Group tactics If she is with a friend - or even worse, a group of friends? How do you approach? l Approaching a group of many girls - a simpler strategy for approaching groups. l How to have her leave the group - a passive strategy... but still pretty good:) l Neghits Neghits explained - Mystery shows you what gets you the attention of the most beautiful girls. l Neghits expansion pack - some additional advice on using neghits and a few examples. l Eliciting values Eliciting values explained - become the man of her dreams, just by talking to her:) l Trance words explained - say it in her own words (also relates to Patterning). l Calibrate the girl - and you can read her like an open book. l Eliciting values - introducing the questions - how to ask the questions without sounding obtrusive. l Eliciting values - the questions - so what questions should you ask? l Eliciting values - the answers - now that you know her values, it is time to talk about "yourself":) l The perfect relationship - a simple value-eliciting scheme. l GM style GM style explained - I bet you won't believe that this actually works:) Well, it does:) l GM style lines - completely outrageous!:) l GM style expansion pack - a continuation of the GM style, links to appropriate articles. l Sexual talk http://tranceboy.fws1.com/index.html (3 of 8) [8/3/2002 9:28:33 PM] How to Lay Girls Guide Talking about sex - a few words of warning. l Use sexual stories to get her horny - can you get away with it? Or, can she get away... without a wet spot in her pants:) l The Ideal Guy routine - no matter her interest for you, use this to get her horny (and be around when that happens:). l Patterning Patterning explained - the essence of Ross Jeffries' Speed Seduction. l Delivering patterns - general rules - the most important aspects. l Delivering patterns - tonality - the right way to do it. l Additional patterning skills Trance words explained - say it in her own words (also relates to Eliciting values). l Anchoring explained - the Pavlov's reflex of seduction:) l Quoting and stacking realities - you can get away with anything using this (also relates to "Sexual talk":) l Time distortion - how to make a girl you just met feel like you've been friends forever:) l Bullshit fantasies - a powerful application of time distortion (relates to Time distortion). l Thought binding - an excellent article by Ross Jeffries. l Submodalities - an explanation plus an excercise in removing hesitation. l Read romance novels to enrich your patterning language - the cause justifies the means:) l Common misconceptions and problems with patterning - and how to overcome them. l The patterns Introducing patterns into a discussion - without sounding unnatural. Also how to approach. l Discovery Channel pattern - "the ride goes up and down and once you get off, you want to come again and again":) l Stone Necklace pattern - tell her a breathless/speechless-making story:) l The Trust pattern - alleviate her most common fears. l The Rose patterns - and she'll be obsessed with you:) 3 patterns. l Believing the Supernatural patterns - "destinies", "higher beings", "chi energies"; feed her with her favourite food:) l Passion to Passion pattern - shift her passion from "something" to "someone". l Mental Screen pattern - "close eyes, imagine great feelings, open eyes, see... me?:)" l Peak Experience pattern - exchange peak experiences with her. l Natural Woman pattern - show her you know the secret and natural side of her. l Meeting the Perfect Man pattern - and she'll feel what its like... in your presence:) l Feeling Drawn patterns - descriptions of initial attraction plus examples of using vague language. 4 patterns. l Incredible Connection patterns - the classic and its various derivatives. 12 patterns. l Falling in Love patterns - make her feel the feeling of falling in love:) 7 patterns. l The Dream pattern - help a girl have dreams about you. l Being Similar pattern - and she'll feel what you feel (a growing boner?:). l "Too bad we don't… but if we could…" pattern - you can describe almost any state you want to her with this one:) l Find Your Desire pattern - and turn good girls into "naughty":). l Sex is Natural pattern - you're adults, you can talk intelligently about sex... right:)? l "The more... the more.." pattern - a simple yet powerful application of thought binding. l Reading the Poem pattern - transition from patterning to reciting poetry. l The Eyes patterns - what better topic to talk about than her eyes. 2 patterns. l http://tranceboy.fws1.com/index.html (4 of 8) [8/3/2002 9:28:33 PM] How to Lay Girls Guide I Want You pattern - transition from patterning to kissing:) l At Least We Can Be Friends pattern - LJBF her into tearing your clothes off on the spot:) l Indifference to Attraction patterns - convert her from friend to lover:) 3 patterns. l Find That Girl pattern - reinstate her faith in men. l Blow Job patterns - these are supposed to make her want to... well, you figure it out:) 2 patterns. l Backdoor Pleasure patterns - the funniest patterns ever:) Read and you'll know why:) 3 patterns. l The Void pattern - the contrast of feeling empty versus feeling happy and fulfilled.. l The Door pattern - a pattern so evil, that even Ross Jeffries has denounced this one. l Presuppositions and other "mind-tricks" - don't leave her any choice:) l Long-distance seduction Become your own "friend" - to put in a good word with her:) l Patterning over the phone - sounds lucrative... but is it worth it? l Nick-name tease - isn't a woman's curiosity a wonderful thing:)? l Now that she's interested: Common signs of interest - to know you're "in":) Building a bridge AFC-style - if you can't do anything, do it at least the AFC way:) If more than one girl is interested in you - don't choose, you might loose:) Reading the signs of a "committed" woman - understand her seemingly contradictory signs, and the door will be open:) Capitalise - there's a girl that has started liking you quite on her own!? Now don't let that window close:) Making a timely exit - instead on lingering on forever, leave her hungry for more. Closing - how to get a girl to give you her number and a kiss:) Asking for a... date? - now that you have her number... what next? Proceeding instead of closing - for why would you want to "close" if things are going smooth? Our World routine - constructing a world for her in which she will feel free to make love to you:) Inviting the girl over to your place - to "check out a book or something...":) If she has second-thoughts - she wants it but can't quite make up her mind, "help" her:) My home is my love-nest - make sure you can be confident about the quality of your retreat. Networking and pivots - if you're not quite interested anymore or she's not quite interested yet. Handling the girls: Be busy - attract girls by being "busy". Suggest competition - keep her on her toes. Put a price on yourself - the more you "cost", the more value she attributes to you. Show a willingness to walk away - don't let her take you for granted. Use her friends - by realising, that "friendship" also means "rivalry". Judge her by her actions, not by her words - or rather, let her actions speak the words. Have and reveal secrets - provide a constant thrill for the woman. Use poetry - women are about feelings; poems are about feelings - and mixing the two gets you dynamite:) 12 poems. If she compliments you - make her feel good for having done that:) Act like its special - and what you have can not be found anywhere else. Paying her a compliment - an AFC trap, unless you do it right. Cook for her and "date" at home - the main dish will be less expensive and the "dessert" more convenient:) When should you call a woman after having sex with her? - don't blow it, she'll be very sensitive and tender about this one. Romantic gifts and things to do - but use these to reward, not to bribe. http://tranceboy.fws1.com/index.html (5 of 8) [8/3/2002 9:28:33 PM] How to Lay Girls Guide Managing many relationships at once - best policy is (tailored:) honesty. Troubleshooting: If she asks for YOUR number instead - don't fall for this (relates to Closing). If she still refuses to give you her number - a strategy of covert persistence. If she says "Why do you ask?" - read how to recover (relates to Patterning and Eliciting values). If she asks "Are you trying to seduce me?" - this isn't trouble actually (she likes it:), but you still need to know how to answer. "Have you ever...?" gets busted - what do you do, if she says "No" in response (relates to Patterning). Ejecting - you don't always have to close. Know when to cut your losses. If she cancels a date - she screwed you (and not the way you hoped she would:). Now what? If she doesn't return your phone-calls/e-mails - a zero-tolerance policy. If she shows disrespect for you - you dump her, aka The Returning Fox Theory. The age difference problem - you shouldn't anticipate it, but its good to be prepared. Nothing works with the girl - and you tried all your techniques. But there's an ace up your sleeve:) If she says "Let's just be friends" - looks like you're in trouble, read how to recover. Dealing with rejection - why you should never get rejected and how to cope with it, if you do. But I really want this girl! - read why this is such a self-defeating attitude. The boyfriend problem If she says she has a boyfriend - never prompt for it, but if she says it anyway, don't just bail yet. l Alienating the boyfriend in her mind - from "Sweep women off their feet". Sayanora borefriends! l Boyfriend-smashing techniques - by NYC. Adios borefriends! l Boyfriend destroyer patterns - Hasta la vista borefriends! 6 patterns. l Micellaneous: Fun and games - you'll love these:) "The kissing bet", "Osama", "A-Hole + truth or dare". Bad jokes - careful:) "Pants in the air", "Telepathic watch", "Spermogram", "Doctor's appointment", "Voodoo dildo" etc. A game of Crash and Burn - guess it depends on your definition of fun:) But a great experience (and confidence?:) builder. More things to do for fun - useless, but fun:) Top colognes - for getting the girls, of course. Miscellaneous suggestions and observations about seduction - a recap. Articles: The Iranian from hell - do your looks matter? Read this report by Maniac High and decide for yourself:) Eye contact experiment - David Shade finds out, how girls react to eye-contact with a stranger. The pivot theory - NYC explains the benefits of making girls your pivots. Ross comments on www.introme.com - his one-page website / personals ad full of NLP and SS. Falling in love vs being a player - in case you have any feelings of guilt. A female seducer turning straight girls into bi and lesbian - if you're a girl reading "How to Lay Girls", this one's for you:) Article in Rolling Stone - a tour of modern seduction literature, NLP and Speed Seduction. Article in Playboy - the Harvard-educated journalist experiences a paradigm shift. Job Interview patterns - a different perspective on NLP and patterning. 2 patterns. Field reports: The rich and famous setup - but even more accurately the "tired of female attention" setup:) The effectiveness of persistence with a smile - true seduction (choose and seduce:), not a numbers game or easy girls. Svengali's street pick-up - a classic street pick-up using humour, romance, sex-talk and kino with confidence. http://tranceboy.fws1.com/index.html (6 of 8) [8/3/2002 9:28:33 PM] How to Lay Girls Guide Svengali's friend's street pick-up - a "neg" of sorts gets the ball rolling:) The original Mr Smooth posts - Maniac High describes the technique of a Japanese PUA. 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Either she has to go or you have to go or you just feel you can't keep it up at the same heights anymore and need to stop before you stall. So what are the best ways closing? (A close by the way is not a "Bye, it was nice meeting you", you'll have to extract something out of your interaction with the girl, either her phone-number, a promise for a new meeting, a kiss, better yet - all of those things:). Here are a few examples. Example 1 You: "Why don't we continue this somewhere else and see how much we can enjoy each other's company?" In response she might offer a change of venue (if she mumbles "your place or mine?", then boy! either she's real easy or you're real good:), but more probably she's gonna offer a phone number so the two of you can set up a meeting later over the phone. Notice, that you didn't ASK for her phone number, it was her idea to give it to you, thus framing you in her mind very differently from when you would have asked for the number. The first instance creates in her mind a picture of "I gave him my number… which must mean I like him" while the second creates an opposite picture of "He asked for my number…. which must mean he likes me… yawn, yeah he's nice, next!":) Example 2 You: "So..what steps would we have to take in order to make sure we can talk again?" If a change of venue is highly unlikely, this one is a more direct wake-up call for her to usher you her number. Example 3 You: "I have an intuition… and I don't know if you can imagine this as I describe it… that when we get a chance to talk without time pressures or interruptions… we'll really enjoy each other's company… and I'm wondering if there's a number where you feel comfortable having me call you?" Example 4 "Let's do xxx together. I'll call you" "But you don't have my number!" "Oh that's right! (pull out a pen)" Example 5 An example of Mystery's #close (the girl is already quite eager though and the #close is a formality, but beautifully handled nevertheless:): "Well, when we go blading you have to wear your gear cause I love the hills." She nods so I add, "for this to happen you have to ask me a question." She blurts out, "can I have your #?" I say, "wow you come on strong! Are you always this http://tranceboy.fws1.com/closing.htm (1 of 4) [8/3/2002 9:30:37 PM] How to Lay Girls Guide bold?" She says, "yes" I act "impressed" and say, "how bout we trade #s ... fair?". Update. A variation of the above. Mystery, Clifford's Seduction Newsletter: You: "Well... now that we've set up a meeting, there's a question you need to ask me." Girl: "What?" You: "Oh come on!" Girl: "What's your phone number?" Update. Example 6 (Taken from "Sweep women off their feet...":) "Just abruptly look at your watch if you're wearing one, or if you don't have one ask for the time right in the middle of your conversation. Once you get the time make up an excuse that you have to go right away. Be polite and tell her how much you enjoyed this conversation and that it was your pleasure to meet someone like her and walk away. Just as she will be all confused about what is going on, wondering if she said something to offend you or if perhaps you don't like her because you didn't ask her out or you didn't even ask for her phone number, come back as though you forgot something and say: "You know what? If we ever wanted to do this again, and laugh and have a good time together we don't even know how to get a hold of each other. And that would be such a tragedy. It would be a definite loss for me, but perhaps if you think about it and realize how much you enjoy having intriguing conversations, laughing and having a good time, you will know that it would be a loss for you too. So, what do you figure we should do about it?" The answer is obvious. But if she doesn't offer you her phone number right now while you still maintain this sense of urgency as you have to leave, ask her for it directly." Update. Example 7 If however you don't have the time / can't come up with anything to construct a situation for her to offer you her number, or you have offered all sorts of opportunities ("So what should we do in order for us to be able to continue this discussion some other time?" "Um... I dunno?") but she just doesn't take the hint - ask for her number directly. "I don't mean to be direct, but can I have your phone number." l "You can't leave...You haven't given me your phone number yet!" l "Give me your number", then hand a pen and a notebook (that simple?:). l Update. Example 8 Johnny Shack (http://showgirls.com.au): "You should say "I think you're a great girl and I think we would get along really well. Now if I didn't come and talk with you, which may seem a bit cocky, we would never get to know each other, so the best thing for me to do was to come and ask you out. You can't knock that now can you?" Wait for her reply which will almost definitely be in agreeance with you and then say: "How about not organising anything now, but give me your phone number and it will give you some time to think about it and me some time to plan something for us". Now don't stand around waiting for her to give you some long winded answer as to why or why not she will do this. You need to keep your presentation going by assuming she will give her number to you. You must ask for her number then and there as though you expect to get it from her. Even if you don't have a pen and paper ask for her number and then remember it. Ask her if it is in the phone-book in case you forget it and then ask what it would be under. You have already explained why she should give her number to you and also given her the option in her mind that even if you ring she can still say no to you. Now that you have done this you need to focus on the phone number and it will take her mind http://tranceboy.fws1.com/closing.htm (2 of 4) [8/3/2002 9:30:37 PM] How to Lay Girls Guide away from a yes or no answer in regards to a date. Actually, whether she realises it or not, she really has just said to you she will go out with you. She may not even realise this at the moment as you have given her the option that even when you ring she can say "no", but when it comes to that, she is more or less guaranteed not to decline." Refining the close (originally suggested by Mystery) When you do the #close, don't just trade numbers, accompany it with a humorous "But when I call you, I don't want you to answer "Huh? Who? Ah… its you… ee… so… howzit going…", I want you to act really enthusiastic and happy, like "Oh, you called! God I'm so glad!!", ok? Is that a deal?:)" This ends the close on a very light, friendly and positive note plus automatically kick-starts the phone call on that very same note:) Additionally you can end the phone call in the same manner: "So when we meet, I want you to smile, give me a big warm friendly hug and take my hand:) Deal:)?" End the phone call and start the meeting with these and you'll have removed many an obstacle from your path to being one with the girl:) Update. A line to use when exchanging phone numbers. Mystery, Clifford's Seduction Newsletter: "Is our relationship going be romantic? ...because... I like romance!" Update. (Taken from "Sweep women off their feet...":) "Whether you are going to call her or vice versa, make sure that you set up a date and time for the call. Don't just say that you'll get in touch sometime soon. Set an exact time for [calling]." Update. Mystery, ASF: "I will suggest something to do together when I'm closing. I will lead them to give me their # and during that time suggest that the # exchange will lead to more than just the roller blading or whatever we wanted to do together. When I call, I tell them I have some stuff to take care of and I want her to keep me company - I then get some stuff done with them and go for a quick bite and talk in the car and drop by a friends house and do some little things. No date." Update. Mystery and Rick, Clifford's Seduciton Newsletter: "(when a girl is in a rush) "I understand you're in a hurry... I'm in a hurry as well... But what a lot of people don't understand is that time constraints are an illusion... I mean... you don't HAVE to leave right now... There will be another cab (or something else, depending on the situation)... Let's finish this (exchange numbers)."" Update. Maxim (http://maximmag.com): “The best thing he can do is try to make a date off of our common interests. If we were talking about golf, ‘We should go to a driving range sometime’ is a great thing to say. It’s not like the pressure of a date, more like you’re sports companions. If I want to see you, I’ll pick up on your invite. —Phoebe, 32, Westport, Conn. Politeness is always a good thing. A simple handshake and ‘I enjoyed meeting you, I’d love to talk to you again,’ with a suggestion of a specific exhibition or a show to see is great. That would make me feel like a guy has it together. —Aimee, 26, Berkeley, Calif. If all of a guy’s friends are leaving and he stays behind to talk to you, there’s suddenly a lot of pressure on. He should always leave with his friends. He can simply say he doesn’t want to ditch them, then ask if he can call me. He comes off like a good pal and not just someone on the make. —Diana, 24, New York City” Whenever possible though, aim for the *close, the #close will follow naturally plus it'll have much more meaning for the both of you:) The *close If you can read body-language fairly well, you'll know when the girl is receptive or ready or even waiting for a kiss close:) She'll let you touch her without resistance, touches you in return, wets her lips slightly and/or looks at your lips, especially when you are aobut to depart (be observat though, they're doing it subconsciously and generally don't want to let you in on their already aroused little fantasies about you:). http://tranceboy.fws1.com/closing.htm (3 of 4) [8/3/2002 9:30:37 PM]
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