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Liberty Seated The E-Gobrecht Collectors Club 2009 Volume5,Issue10 TheElectronicNewsletteroftheLIBERTYSEATEDCOLLECTORSCLUB October2009(Whole#57) Time to Vote! What’sInsidethisissue? AuctionNews 2-3 No,not for yourfavorite politicianbut for your favoriteGobrecht Journal arti- byJimGray cle. Duringtheweekof September21st, LSCC members weresent twoballots QuestionoftheMonth 3 withtheir2009-2010dues notice. Theballots are forthe: byPaulKluth AnswerstoQoM 3 Kamal M.Ahwash LiteraryAward 2008-2009 GreerandAhwashPlate 4-11 This awardis forthebest articletoappearintheGobrecht Journal duringthe Coins-PCGSGrading past yearincludingissues 103,104,and105. Aselectionoftwenty-onearticles ResultsbyGerryFortin areontheballot andeachmembercanvoteforuptothreearticles. WhathappenedtoRoy 11 Ash? James B. Pryor Numismatic ResearchAward SubscriberCorrespon- 12 This awardwas establishedtorecognizeanoutstandingcontributiontonumis- dence maticresearchon LibertySeatedcoinagethrough publicationintheGobrecht InformationWanted, 13 Journal. This awardis presentedforthebest researcharticlepublishedinthe AvailabilityofPastIssues oftheE-Gobrecht,and journal overthe25 consecutiveissues from #76through#100. Thecluboffi- Advertisements cers selectedthe15 articles theyfeel are worthyof this awardand eachmember LSCCInformation 14 canvoteforuptothree articles. Forthose without access tothese15 articles, a short summaryofthesearticles areincludedinaspecial editionoftheE- Gobrecht,whichwas emailedtoall subscribers on September26,2009. Clubmembers, pleasetakethetimetovotefor yourfavorite articles andsend theballots inwith yourdues pertheinstructions includedintheletter. Club Members meet at the recent Long Beach Show Clubmember,BradDePew,reports that fivemembers of LSCC met for a someSeatedcoinagecamarade- rie. Theyheld anopenforum typeofmeeting; just fiveguys sittingaroundatabletalkingabout coins. Discussioncovered whetherornot theminters storeddies inasafewhennot inuse,thebenefits of having thenewHalf Dollarbook inlooseleafform overbound, andtheeffect hoardingofcertaindates has onval- ues forthevarieties. Interspersedwas ShowandTell forcoins theywanted toshareandshowoff. A possi- blenewdimevarietywas displayed andis beingresearched. Theyall enjoyedtheconversationandagreed tomeet again. TheE-GobrechtisatwiceawardwinningelectronicpublicationoftheLibertySeatedCollectorsClub(LSCC). The LSCCisanon-profitorganizationdedicatedtotheattributionsoftheLibertySeatedCoinseries. TheLSCCprovidestheinfor- mationcontainedinthisemailnewsletterfromvarioussourcesfreeofchargeasageneralservicetothemembershipandothers withthisnumismaticinterest. YoudonothavetobeaLSCCmembertobenefitfromthisnewsletter;subscriptiontotheE- Gobrechtisavailabletoanyone. Alldisclaimersareineffectasthecompletenessand/oraccuracyoftheinformationcontained hereincannotbecompletelyverified. Contactinformationisincludedattheend. Page2 The E-Gobrecht Auction News by Jim Gray TheBowers &Merena 1843-OdimeinVF30withnicenatural graytoning PhiladelphiaSalefeaturedan at $805andawholesome 1856-S dimeinFine15 hit 1845-OdimeinVF20that was $748. niceforthe gradebut did not An1852-OquarterinVF30but soft on Lib- sell.Two1872-CC dimes werepresented,onein erty’s head andthestars went for$2,185,while a XF40that was cleanedanddamagedwithmanypin bright white,well struck andmarkfree1856-S in scratches for$1,553 and aVG8withtheright ob- AU58soldfor$5,750. Adeeplytoned1858-S in verselegend gonethat didnot sell. Alovelyprob- VF35andverynicehit $3,105,whereas acorroded lem free1873-CC witharrows inXF45soaredto 1860-S inFine12onlyekedout $403. Achoice $20,700. Twoduplicates,oneinXF40cleaned and 1867-S quarterinMS62that was well struck, with corroded went for$2,687 andabetter XF40piece light graytoning,andonlyone finer at PCGS rang that was cleanedandnicelyretonedwent for$6,900. thegongfor$18,400. Anadditional 1873-CC dimeinVF25withanice An1855-S halfwas gradedAU55inspiteof obversebut weakonthe reverse,particularlythede- thewearbeingacross the draperylinestill managed nomination,didnot sell. $7,763,andan1870-CC halfwithVGdetails but An1856-S/s quarterinG6that was well scratchedandrim dinged went for$863. wornandproblem freewent for$834. An1857-S in Alightlytoned1851original dollarinMS63 XF45withadarkmottledobverseonlyrealized soaredto$54,625. 1854 and1856dollars inAU50 $920. An1867-S inFine 12but veryweakonthe andAU58,respectively, eachsoldfor $5,175. An right sideof Libertydidnot sell. Awell struck 1871-CC dollarinAU50withslightlymottledtoning bright white1869-S inMS62was impairedbyadark hit astrong$20,700. area at DOLanddidnot sell. An1870-CC inVF The Stack’sAmericana Salehadveryfew that hadbeen cleaned but hadnicelyretonedinal- relevant Seatedcoins but didincludeacompleteset bum soldfor$8,050. An1872-CC inVG8andde- of LibertySeateddimes that weremainlyinlower cent forthe gradehit $1,725,whilean1872-S in grades andmanyimpaired. Onemultiplelot con- VF20withdarkmottledtoningdidnot sell. tainedseventy-fivecoins. Othercoins ofrelevance Anattractive1873-CC witharrows halfin were an1841-O closedbudinVF,but corroded, AU50realized$2,875. cleaned andretoned,still managed$1,725. An1860- The Heritage LongBeachSalefeaturedan (Continuedonpage3) 2009 Volume 5,Issue 10 (October 2009) Page3 for$1,150andanicefor thegrade1874-CC inG6 (Continuedfrompage2) OdimeinFine12hit $1,092,whereas arough, roseto$9,200. Twocertified1873-CC dimes that cleaned andporous 1871-CC inVFdidnot sell. A werenot part ofthecollectionwere as follows: a VF cleaned andrough1872 dimeinFine12hit $862. 35withnicemedium graytoningfor$10,063 and a An1873-CC inVG8,but dentedand granular,went F15withdeepsteel toningdidnot sell. Question of the Month Topicfore-DiscussionbyPaulKluth Atopic of obvious extreme importance at coins shows... Which Coin Shows/Conventions that you attend offer the best food? Which Shows aren't so good? All responses are welcome! Please consider taking a few moments and sending in your thoughts and opinions. Send your reply to the E-Gobrecht editor at [email protected]. Answers to last Month’s Question If one were to compile a list of the top 10 collections of Liberty Seated Half Dollars to be offered for sale at public auction, which sales would be on your list? From Bill Bugert: Although not necessarily the top collections that were auctioned, here is a listing of some of my favorite auctioned collections and catalogues in no particular order: James Bennett Pryor Collection, B&M 1/1996  George Byers Collection, Stack’s 10/2006  Queller Family Collection of Half Dollars, Stack’s 10/2002  Richmond Collection Part III, DLRC 3/2005  Louis Eliasberg, Sr. Collection, B&M 4/1997  Superior 10/1973  Jules Reiver Collection, Volume II, Heritage 1/2006  Norweb Collection, B&M 11/1998  Rarities Sale (Douglas Noblet Collection), B&M 1/1999  1975ANASale, Superior 8/1975  RLMiles Collection, Stack’s 4/1969  Robison Collection, Stack's 1/1982  Page4 The E-Gobrecht Greer and Ahwash Plate Coins – PCGS Grading Results By Gerry Fortin It was time….. Consideringtheamount of effort to collections. At the2009FUNshow andthe2009 publicizetheTop100 LibertySeatedDimeVarieties Los Angeles ANA, aportionoftheTop100varieties andnow,theHistorical Collections initiative,itwas andcombinationAhwash andGreerplate coins were timetostart thethirdpartycertificationprocess for submittedtoPCGS to“test thewaters”on current rawAhwash andGreerseateddimes. All ofthe Ah- gradingstandards. Current thirdpartygrading wash andGreerplatecoins inmycollectionwere (TPG) gossipwas that of conservative andtight securedduringtheearly1990s timeframeandmostly grading. Iwas hesitant tospendconsiderablemonies from Stack’s or Brian Greer. Asignificant number tocertifycirculated,AU andlowerend mint state ofAhwash plate coins appearedduringtheStack’s dimes ifthegradingwas unreasonableonlyto crack auctionoftheAllen F. LovejoyCollectiononOcto- out theresults andentertheresubmissionprocess. ber16,1990followedbyreappearances insubse- Forcirculated coins, thecrackout andresubmission quent Stack’s orCoinGalleries auctions. Hours process was not financiallyattractive giventhe exist- werespent checkingeachnewStack’s auctioncata- ingrecognitionofAhwashandGreerplate coin logfortheremotepossibilityof aresurfacingAh- amongfellowcollectors. wash platecoinuntil 1995orso. After1995, Ibe- lievetheresidual Ahwashplatecoins werewidely This articleis abriefreport onAhwash andGreer dispersedthroughout the numismaticcommunityif platecoins results from thefirst twosubmissions. not placeinseveral majorcollections. Theacquisi- Ratherthanwrite anextensivecommentaryon tionoftheGreerplatecoins cameabout duringthe whetherPCGS underor over gradedcertaindimes, I 1992through1996timeframeas aresult ofaper- will leavethejudgment tothe E-Gobrechtreaders. sonal relationshipwithBrianduringthefinal prepa- There aremanyopinions whenthesubject ofTPG is rationstages of,“TheCompleteGuideto Liberty discussed. Gradingstandards have eased andtight- SeatedDimes.” Briandesiredtosell his collection enedwhiletheseplatecoins quietlysat inmycollec- andfortunately, Iwas oneoftheearlybuyers. I tion. As theFUNand ANAsubmissions areexam- hopedtomaintainsomeintegrityforhis guidebook ined,onecandrawthe conclusionthat BrianGreer collectionforsubsequent usageinacomprehensive employed conservative grading duringthesaleof seateddimevarieties bookthat was intheplanning his collection. Ihope youenjoyviewingthefollow- stage at that time. inggradingresult pictorial anddescriptions. Manyofthe LSCCE-Gobrechtreaders are aware If youownor are aware ofAhwash or Greerplate that theTop100 LibertySeatedDimeVarieties set is coins inthenumismaticcommunity, yourhelpwould listedas anNGC Signatureset, beappreciated fordocumentingthosedimewithin (http://coins.www.collectors- theHistorical Collections moduleat soci- www.seateddimevarieties.com. Pleasedonot hesi- ety.com/registry/coins/ViewPersonalCollection.aspx tatetocontact [email protected]. ?UserCollectionID=151&Tab=list)againforpublic- itypurposes. Unfortunately, Ihavebeenquiteneg- ligent inpopulatingthat onlineset duetomost ofthe As Always…..HappyHunting! platecoins beingusedto illustratetheTop100set were raw; manycamefrom theAhwash andGreer (Continuedonpage5) 2009 Volume 5,Issue 10 (October 2009) Page5 (Continuedfrompage4) 1838-OF-101– Greer Plate Coin Purchased during 1992 from Brian Greer, graded EF45 2009 certification asPCGSAU 50 1838 Large StarsF-103b –GreerPlate Coin Purchased during 1993 from Brian Greer, graded AU55 2009 certification asPCGSAU 55 (Continuedonpage6) Page6 The E-Gobrecht (Continuedfrompage5) 1838 F-110a–Top 100Varieties#8 - CrackedObverse #2,Greer VarietyPlate Coin Purchased during 1992 from Brian Greer, graded EF40 2009 certification asPCGSEF 45 1838 F-111a–Top 100Varieties#9 - CrackedObverse #3,Greer VarietyPlate Coin Purchased during 1992 from Brian Greer, graded AU55 2009 certification asPCGSAU 58 (Continuedonpage7) 2009 Volume 5,Issue 10 (October 2009) Page7 (Continuedfrompage6) 1839-OF-103– Top 100 Varieties#11- Small O Obv/Large O Rev, Ahwash Plate Coin Purchased during 1995 from Stack’s, graded AU 50 2009 certification asPCGSEF 45 1840-OF-101a– LargeO Reverse,Greer PlateCoin Purchased during 1995 from Brian Greer, graded AU50 2009 certification asPCGSAU 58 (Continuedonpage8) Page8 The E-Gobrecht 1840-O F-106 –Top 100 Varieties#16 –Medium O Rev with Crack, Greer Plate Coin Purchased during 1995 from Brian Greer, graded EF45 2009 certification asPCGSEF 40 1841-OF-104 –Medium O, Greer Plate Coin Purchased during 1995 from Brian Greer, graded AU50 2009 certification asPCGSAU 55 (Continuedonpage9) 2009 Volume 5,Issue 10 (October 2009) Page9 1841-O F-105–Small O Reverse of 1842-O, Greer VarietyPlate Coin Purchased during 1996 from Brian Greer, graded EF45 2009 certification asPCGSEF 45 1843 F-102– Top 100Varieties#25- Repunched 1843/1843, Greer Plate Coin Purchased during 1992 from Brian Greer, graded AU50 2009 certification asPCGSAU 55 (Continuedonpage10) Page10 The E-Gobrecht 1852 F-105– Top 100Varieties#33- Repunched 52, Greer Plate Coin Purchased during 1992 from Brian Greer, graded AU50 2009 certification asPCGSAU 58 1854-O F-102–Top 100 Varieties#38 – Shattered Obverse, Greer Plate Coin Purchased during 1996 from Brian Greer, graded EF45 2009 certification asPCGSAU 50 (Continuedonpage11)