constituency public hearings, mandera east constituency, held at arabia on 3rd june, 2002

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CONSTITUTION OF KENYA REVIEW COMMISSION
(CKRC)
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VERBATIM REPORT OF
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CONSTITUENCY PUBLIC HEARINGS,
MANDERA EAST CONSTITUENCY,
HELD AT ARABIA
ON
3RD JUNE, 2002
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CONSTITUENCY PUBLIC HEARINGS, MANDERA EAST CONSTITUENCY, HELD AT
ARABIA ON 3RD JUNE 2002
Present
1. Com. Nancy Baraza
2. Com. Isaac Lenaola
3. Com. Alice Yano
Secretariat Staff in Attendance:
1.Joash Aminga - Programme Officer
2.Absalam Gure Hassan - Assistant Programme officer
3.Regina Obara - Verbatim Recorder
4. George Wachira - Rapportuer
Com. Lenaola: Ningependa kuanza mkutano, na kabla ya kuendelea, ningependa kuwajulisha kwacommisioner ambao wako
hapa sasa, na baadaye mtoe maoni yenu.
Translator: …(inaudible) Wuxu daxay intan xathalka bilawin waxan rawa dhadkan iney amusa.
Ningependa kuwajulisheni commissioner mwenzangu, Nancy Baraza,
Translator: Nagtan bithixtha kajirto waxaladaxa Nancy Baraza.
na commissioner mwenzangu Alice Yano.,
Translator: Mithan mithigta jirto Alice Yano baladaxa.
tuko na Programme officer-Joash Aminya,
Translator: Ninkan waxaladaxa Joash Amingo.
tuko na Recorder- Regina Obara,
Translator: Nagta wax qorey Regina Obara.
tuko na recorder mwingine George Wachira,
Translator: Ninkan kale Goerge Wachira ya ladaxa.
na tuko na Absalam Gure Hasan, ambaye pia ni programme officer.
Translator: Programme Officer Abdisalan Hassan waye.
Na mimi ninaitwa Commissioner Isaac Lenaola.
Translator: Asagana waxalada Commissioner Issack Lenaola.
Nimeshukuru kuwa hapa ningependa kumuita Mheshimiwa Shabani, atueleze kamiti yake ya Constitution review commission
hapa katika Mandera East. Karibu Mheshimiwa.
Translator: Wadth maxathsantixin wana uyeri rawa Mheshima Shaban xanoshego ……(inaudible).
Mheshimiwa Shabani: Thank you very much, mimi naitwa Mheshimiwa Shabani Ali, mbunge wa Mandera East, nitapatia
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nafasi Mr. Tero Maalim Thamo ambaye pia ni chairman wa Mandera East constituency Constitution review committee.
Tero Maalim: Asante sana mheshimiwa Shabani, kwa kunipatia hii fursa, wana-committee wangu: on my left ni councillor
Yusuf, followed by mzee Mahamood Ibrahim, and Mheshimiwa himself, is also a member of the committees and my name is
Dero Maalim, I’m the chairman of the Mandera East constituency. Thank you.
Commissioner Lenaola: Ningependa sasa kuwajurisheni, taratibu ya kutoa maoni,
Translator: Waxan rawa in an ithin shego nathamka ath maoniga olabexeysin.
jambo la kwanza, nitawaita kupitia hii list ambayo nimepewa.
Translator: Listigan xatha lasoqorey yan racii.
Nikiita jina lako njoo hapa karibu na Regina,
Translator: Magacatha xathan shego Regina agtetha imauw.
ili tupate kuchukua sauti kutumia hicho chombo cha kunasa sauti.
Translator: Sifa cothkatha mesha logaxelo.
Utasema majina yako, na utatoa maoni kwa dakika kumi.
Translator: Megactha bath shegi, xacyigathana towan thaqiqa yath kagabixin.
Kama kuna swali kutoka kwa ma-commissioner, nitakuuliza maswali baada ya wewe kutoa maoni yako.
Translator: Xathi Commishna yalka ey sual qawan markath damey kathib ban kuweythinena.
Ukishamaliza kutoa maoni, utaenda pale kwa Absalam, utajiadikisha, kama umetoa maoni.
Translator: Abdi Salam meshisa yath iskaqori in ath racyi bixisey.
Jambo la tatu, uko na haki ya kutumia lugha yeyote, Kiingereza, Kiswahili, ama Kisomali.
Translator: Mitha sathaxath xaq batyh ulethaxay in ath afkath rabtith ath kuxathashith. Afsomali, af Ingiris af kath rabthith.
Kama uko na barua umeadika memorandum, utatumia dakika tano,
Translator: Xathath racyi qoran ath wathatith shan thaqiqa ya lagusini ath racyiga labaxthith.
kuangaza tu, kutoa zile point za maana kutoka ile barua yako. Na baada ya kutoa hio utakuja kupeana memorandum pia kwa
Abu Salam na Amina.
Translator: Xath dameysith racyigi Abdisalan yath waraqtha ukeni.
Jambo lingine, ningependa heshima, kwa hii shughuli ya kutoa maoni.
Translator: Mitha kaley heshmath yan karabna marki racyi labixinayo.
Mtu akitoa maoni hapa na huyapedi, usimpigie makelele.
Translator: Qof racyiga udibto waxba xakashagin.
Ongoja mpaka wakati wako ukuje useme yako yale unapenda kusema.
Translator: Meshan qofkasta racyi yulabaxa, marka sug ila waqtiga …..(inaudible).
Na ukipenda maoni ya mtu, ningependa upige makofi baadaye, baada ya kumaliza,
Translator: Marka qof xathu shego racyi ath kufarahthin marku xathlo kathib sacab utuma.
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kwa maana makofu katikati ya maneno, itaharibu ile recording katika kile chombo,
Translator: Sacabka iyo qailatha wexey diwi thuwista.
Mtu akiongea vizuri sana na unapenda maneno yake, pigia yeye makofi baada ya yeye kumaliza.
Translator: Marka qofka markath usacabeyneysith marku bogo xathib usacabey.
Basi nafikiri tumeelewana.
Translator: Wan isfaxaney ban umaleyni.
Kama kuna mtu ambaye hasikii na hajui kuzugumza
Translator: Qof an xathlikarin.
na atapata nafasi ya kuwa translated maneno yake.
Translator: Translater ya loyela.
Basi nafikiri tuko tayari kuanza, sawa sawa, Ningependa kumuita Ali Robo.
Translator: Thiyar batixina umaleyna. So thiyar mataxthin.
Ali Robo: Ani waxa laidaxa Ali Robo.
Translator: He is called Ali Robo
Ali Robo: Waxan kaxathlaya.
Translator: He wants to give his views on,
Ali Robo: Wixi onakana dibkaina eh.
Translator: Our problems, are,
Ali Robo: Wax Kenya kaley ey qawin yan qabna.
we have problems more than what Kenyans don’t have,
Ali Robo: Dib an kenyatha kaley kajirin yan qabna.
Translator: We have no problems on other Kenyans
Ali Robo: Waxa dibkena eh.
Translator: One of our problems is
Ali Robo: Okenyath kely ey gawin.
Translator: Which other Kenyans don’t have,
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Ali Robo: Baxal lairaxtho iririn kar.
Translator: The identity cards of the Somalis
Ali Robo: Kenyatha kaley maqabto anagana wan qabna.
Translator: other Kenyans don’t have
Ali Robo: Moogoli kas.
Translator: We don’t want screening cards.
Ali Robo: Waxa kaley odibkena eh.
Ali Robo: Meshan a jogno mawa katirsanin dhowlada Kenya.
Translator: We are not part of the greater Kenya.
Ali Robo: Waxan naxay dhad laxilmamey olagatagey.
Translator: We are forgotten people
Ali Robo: Skulkena ya lawarqawin.
Translator: Our schools are not even known
Ali Robo: Jitkena yalawarqawin.
Translator: Our roads are forgotten
Ali Robo: Xolaxaina iyo dhadkaina iyo thunyathaina odan waxa cuna cathow.
Translator: Both our animals, livestock and human are all taken away by enemies.
Ali Robo: Wax nosocithmey onposodiciyeyna maxaino.
Translator: We do not have people who come to our rescue
Ali Robo: Intas oo kenyatha kaley ey qawin yan anaga qabna.
Translator: We have those problems more than other Kenyans.
Ali Robo: Waxan rabna.
Translator: We want
Ali Robo: Inan kenyatha sithey kunoshaxay an kunolano.
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