Audubon Grouse Correspondence

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by  Eric P. Newman

Subj: FW: New Jersey Obsolete Bank Notes
Date: 5/16/2003 10:37:39 AM Central Standard Time
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Hello Eric Newman,
My name is Scott Hankins, I handle rights and reproduction for the Newark
Museum. William Peniston forwarded me your email. I have searched the Camden
Money in our collection and was able to find one on the notes your
interested in. The note we have is your# 347. The museums accession number
of this note is 73.188.140, you can use this number in future references to
the note.
Currently, the museum does not have any photographs of the note. If you are
interested in having the image for study purpose, it is possible to send a
low resolution digital image. However, if you intend to reproduce the note,
the museum is unable to provide a high quality image at this time. The
reason, is that the state has proposed eliminating funding to the museum in
the FY2004 budget. Until the state budget is passed in June, the museum is
unsure what amount of money if any will be cut. Until this issue has been
settled, new photography has been temporarily suspended. If you are
interested in the digital image, let me know and I will send it to you.
As for the other notes, the numismatics collection does not have a curator
and I have no information as to the location of the other notes you inquired
about.
Kind regards,
Scott Hankins
Assistant Registrar
The Newark Museum
49 Washington Street
Newark, NJ 07101
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
The Newark Museum's funding is in jeopardy! Please visit our Web site at
www.newarkmuseum.org for more information as to how you can help!
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> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 2:49 PM
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> Subject: New Jersey Obsolete Bank Notes
>
> To the Curator of the Coin Collection or Paper Money Collection:
> In 1976 I helped George Wait in his writing and your publishing of his
> book entitled NEW JERSEY'S MONEY. Is Dorothy Bartle still there? If not
> please give this to the proper department for a response.
> For a piece of numismatic research I am looking for pictures of examples
> of items 325, 327, 336, 347, and 349 in the above book. You may have them
> in your collection or know where they might be. May I have your
> cooperation. I will gladly telephone you and answer any questions which
> are not easily handled by Email. I will be very grateful for your
> cooperation. I am the author of THE EARLY PAPER MONEY OF AMERICA if I need
any credentials. Eric P. Newman
Subj: Re: FW: New Jersey Obsolete Bank Notes
Date: 5/16/2003 1:20:21 PM Central Standard Time
From: EricNumis
To: [email protected]
Dear Scott Hankins: I am very appreciative of your prompt cooperation in searching your collection for the State
Bank at Camden obsolete bank notes. I am glad that you found 73.188.140 being a $5 denomination with a very
complex ornamental vignette featuring five and 5. I will try to determine if it is genuine or counterfeit or altered.
Please hold it up to the light and see if under the word "Camden" the paper has been tampered with.
I am quite sympathic with your inability to do high resolution images due to reduction in support funds as this is a
problem with many public funded institutions almost everywhere. A full size digital image will be excellent and I
will be grateful. That will give me enough to work on until my project has progressed sufficiently to prepare for
publication.
My address is 6450 Cecil Ave. St. Louis , MO 63105 for mailing.
If you know of any other large collections of New Jersey obsolete bank notes I would like to ask them what they
might have.
Thanks again. Eric P. Newman
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Date: 5/18/2003 1:39:14 PM Central Standard Time
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Dear Steve: I need a little information you might know: Where is the nicest New Jersey collection of obsolete
bank notes? You can suggest one or more names with addresses or Email if you can. I will be very grateful.
Also do you know the approximate date or dates and the auctioneer that sold all of the American banknote
Company sheets about 10 years ago? If you want to refer me to someone else for either matter I would be glad
for such a suggestion. Eric
Hi Eric, Wish I could help with your questions. I would suggest that perhaps Flugh Shull, Tom Denly or Lyn
Knight would probably know who has the best New Jersey Collection. They seem to know where most of the
material is for future auctions.
As to the ABNCo sheets, I ssume you mean the modern sheets that were produced from the original plates. As
you know Christies sold the real stuff in the big ABNCo sale of 1990/91. I always thought that the modern or
"special proofs", had also come from the Christie auction. Possible guys who might know would be Roger
Durand at PO Box 186, Rehoboth, MA 02769 or again, Flugh Shull, who seems to have handled a lot of them.
Wish I could be of more assistance. I will ask arund and let you know if I discover anything. Again, thanks for
the illustrations.
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Date: 5/29/2003 2:06:31 PM Central Standard Time
From: EricNumis
To: [email protected]
Dear Phil: This is the second communication today. I would like to know what the Library's holdings are as to
salesmen's sample sheets of bank note vignettes issued by Fairman Draper Underwood & Co which operated in
Philadephia from about 1823 to 1830. There was a Murray Draper Fairman firm before that. My concentration is
on Gideon Fairman who was very active in Philadelphia from 1823 through his death in 1826 even though his firm
used his name for several years thereafter. I also would like to know if you have any holdings of material relating
to the State Bank at Camden (NJ) which had an office in Philadelphia around 1825. Anything related to the above
would be most helpful to me. If you need more detail I will try to furnish it. My kind regards. Eric
Subj: Re: (no subject)
Date: 5/30/2003 1:31:12 PM Central Standard Time
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At 03:06 PM 5/29/03 -0400, you wrote:
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hank nJtec ^Dh^w’ fPJ?are']fly a designer and die maker, brought his design for producing counterfeit-proof
a^nk S i FhlladelPhia His pamphlet outlines the means by which your Messrs Murray, Draper and Fairman
along with the Binney-Ronaldson type foundry, screwed him out of his work. If this is of any interest I can send ’
c?U tPh o°.?0Py u find n0th,ng m 0ur collection on Jersy Banks before the 1840s. I passed on your previous to
Stephen Mihm, who will hopefully be in touch. Phil y p 10
Dear Phil: This is the second communication today. I would like to know what the Library's holdings
are as to salesmen s sample sheets of bank note vignettes issued by Fairman Draper Underwood &
Co which operated in Philadephia from about 1823 to 1830. There was a Murray Draper Fairman
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1823 through his death in 1826 even though his firm used his name for several years thereafter I
SS Sh hln o kn£W 'f V DUJ^e,auy holdin9s of materia' relating to the State Bank at Camden
h«inf^h h t ffiC6Jn Phllade'Phia around 1825. Anything related to the above would be most
helpful to me. If you need more detail I will try to furnish it. My kind regards Eric
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Subj: Re: (no subject)
Date: 6/2/2003 11.02:56 AM Central Standard Time
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At 06:12 PM 5/30/03 -0400, you wrote:
Hello Eric, Happpy Monday. A copy of the Brewster pamphlet is on its way to you. I hope you are giving some
serious thought to my shameless solicitation of April 12. Regards, Phil
Dear Phil: Mimh already contacted me and I will see if he wants me to help him.
The Brewster pamphlet is new to me and I can imagine his disgust in the politics involved in getting
the engraving contracts for printing bank notes. Those politics have not changed. I would be very
grateful for a photostat as everyone wanted the business because the plates would be retained by
the engravers and they then could control the reissues.When the first Bank of the United States
went out of business in 1811 everyone opened banks and every bank wanted to issue money. Eric
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Subj: Re: New Jersey Bank Notes
Date: 6/13/2003 11:15:47 AM Central Standard Time
From: EricNumis
To: [email protected]
David : Thank you so much for your detailed answer to my questions. I will await the photocopies you are
sending. I will drop further pursuit into all collateral matters and stick to the Philadelphia operation of SBC first.
There has to be a reason why SBC did not issue $1 and $2 notes. I assume you do not have an example of an
altered State Bank of Trenton into a $1 or $2 SBC but if you have a photocopy or could obtain such that would be
great.(Haxby lists them as seen) Eric
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Subj: Re: (no subject)
Date: 6/17/2003 7:46:46 AM Central Standard Time
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At 12:39 AM 6/17/03 -0400, you wrote:
Eric, banks are listed separately in the directories, in the back, under banks, along with insurance cos., public
institutions, government, churches, organizations, etc. Thus, no room for confusion, all laid out on a page or two.
Unfortunately, no addresses given, so the address you supplied can't be conveniently linked to one of the listed
banks. Will check some other ideas. Phil
Dear Phil: The name of STATE BANK AT CAMDEN was so peculiar and out of place when used in
Philadelphia that it might have been alphabetized in the directories as NEW JERSEY STATE BANK
AT CAMDEN or CAMDEN STATE BANK, or CAMDEN NEW JERSEY STATE BANK. Perhaps
looking again under those names might solve the problem. Thanks. Eric
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Subj: New Jersey bank note
Date: 6/21/2003 11:30:57 AM Central Standard Time
From: EricNumis
To: [email protected]
Dear Mr. Hankins: You were kind enough to notify me on 5/16/03 that the museum has an examample of Wait #
347 your accession # 73.188.140. You also described your institution's financial woes and lack of imaging
equipment which unfortunately seems to be very common problem in other situations.
Would it be possible for you to mail me a simple photocopy of the item so that I may study it? If publication in due
course becomes desirable I will gladly conform to your rules. Thank you so much for your cooperation
Eric P. Newman, 6450 Cecil Ave., St. Louis MO 63105