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4 MINUTE “= 18 WARNING _ .:.. THE CASUALTIES AND LOADS MORE PUNKY THINGS TO READ... DON’T MISS OUT OR ELSE YOU’LL BE A FOOL ¢€ 2019) zs 4 ~ $ UNITY / L etass PRIDE CLASS WAR awarcuistica.ty Yours. Mi ifache I saw these guys in Czech Republic three tin lo them enough to be able 1 ask for intery {icndly, co-operative, kind und approachable gu did, Drummer Pal Thelic waved we into tar tent and was bonest to my questions, ANTI-FLAG 20: YEAR ANNIVERS “es! RN eles af is he? wortied about Donald Trump and ed mich So guess Donald Trump is nat your man either, he isn't my man either, Donald ‘Trump is only out Dar nobody else, But if we look at people like Martin Luther King of Ghandi, they rea more goals without the violence, “That is only way we get lasting changes bunch people. He mur ‘You even didn tke J No, he was a creep. He didn’t like civil rights, he was on loggetheads with Russians about Cuba, not my thing 1 don’t buy any of dat, that's all myth, that all American propaganda. Didyou start as ordinary punk band aud things around you pissed you off so much that ‘you furned into politics or you were politieal band fram word go? We were political band {rom the ‘You know, we grew up in Pittsburg and half ofall bands from Pittsburg are political. There lots of stel factories there and we had one of the frst stel strikes in 19.century an we lad this social justice culture in Pitisburg.so even the bands that are not punk rock a bands are political or left winged. os oe es vbeton sioatarY be geclar ens eu ais itd cpg gus WS 8 et it AL eabtseot 2. int ie ches isan lp fads Sleee} wwe Hi oe 88 © Did you follow Jaromir Jagr when he played in Pitsubrg? x B No, you asked the wrong guy, you have to ask our No.2, he loves ice bockey and he talks {3 about Jaromir Jégr all the time An carly stages you had many personal changes and then you even split up. You didn’t know which direction you wanted to go or didn’t gel together as people or didn’t take it seriously enough? We didn’t find the right people Justin and I grew up togsther, we have been playing musie since being 12 years old.und we couldn't tind the ight people, Justin i the better drummer than me and he'is really good buss player as well. Whoever we could lind to be in the band ‘with us Justin would move to different instruments but | can only play drums and Justin settled on guitar cos we found a good bass player So the reason for personal changes was that, ‘we couldn't find right people, hut is bas been great since then and the new guys are in the band for twenty years which is amazing. ‘With your album Underground Network you moved from hardeore underground punk to mainstream spotlight.Was is conscious step to address bigger audience with your qusage on producer Muss Giorgial just produced it that way and yeu accepted that | don’t necessarily agree with thal, do you think the Underground Network is a mainstrcam’? ‘Well that’s what is written about you on wikipedia. Okay, if t's writen on intemet, it must be true, ha,ha.{ don’t think we have ever gone to the mainstream. is interesting in US in 90's 2000 radio was realy important and they would never play our staf because we were too controversial for selling beer which is what the eadio is for and now, radio doesn’t matter as much. Mainstream is radio and 1V. IC anybody gives us 1 platform to speak we will take that. Separation for me is that platform dictates the specch ul onto your booklets or you write 4 song and THEN try to find something that is, ‘connected to it?. Is sort of chicken und ogg thing, We watch news and read about things and that inspires us to ‘make music. But those things thal inspired us often made it to the booklet und also we are not always thal smart, Sometimes we write a song about something and then ask people “Hey can you tell us more because you are more educated about this topic.” And they also give us right piece for the booklets. ea se ER haa 23 ‘nS RECT ‘So you do topical albums? ‘No, that’s just life, you know. In 2003 « guy wanted to start « war in Iraq , hecause his daddy ‘got beat up in iraq. and he wanted to ruin ives of millions of people, We are still suffering from that, because so many bad decisions crealed these problems we have today. so we had to ‘write about that. Now, Charlotte con man took over the presidency so we have to write about that, ‘Om your own ibel A-¥ Records you help othr Band. Doyou jot gvg them a chance to suas record and distribute it as no one else would do 30 or you wurture them, take then on four and basically help them to get bigger and more known’? We ke then on toura lot, actually, hecause most of them are our fiends.No2 usually ‘econ them in our studio. we have definite hand in trying wo teach them things that we think Feang bands need, We show ofher bands how to bea band. There is lots of silt earn just. tobe ina band, get on tour and play muse. > ft LF seine shorovand energy aot onous ip punk any more? Bare cactet the band But en youreed vn hn sou hie gta show aan ee ota ako booking agence soi have lo mae sue gto sO Rann ety one so tae ae oto lings be aught What ove bout hat J ee ne eve hem hese sl ie arf n thon may levels Not roses et pl go anc what they Hellove in and ts amaing hing wc Pad doing that._ —EE—E oF Sion bat T have read that for big festival lke this you take canoe ep dollars, I that in case isn‘tit apposing your stance about capitalism’? Hen a eat don't knov how much we get I would be aghast ou stance exeept he Li io ly fom he States and wansprt eight people, w= have io eat while we are fac that tile eae t Home and ots of expenses go into thal, There reality of how er expense Ito get here four dudes to play shitty rock son fm oo" EO <- PE AWat's the point of having own label when you record for some other one? ‘When we até on our we cal be at home to make necessary work that needs to be done on record. We have people who do small records for us an we have a man who does all day to day managerial thing. ‘ane BRIXTON ACADEMY, BIE eal {ONDON cao 1 apologize for cheeky quest