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The Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training Foreign Affairs Oral History Project AMBASSADOR LANGE SCHERMERHORN Interviewed by: Charles Stuart Kennedy Initial interview date: May 3, 2002 Copyright 2009 ADST TABLE OF CONTENTS Background Born and raised in New Jersey Mount Holyoke College Entered the Foreign Service in 1966 Colombo, Ceylon: Rotation Officer 1967-1969 Environment Government Madame Bandaranaike British presence Maldives Ambassador Cecil Lyon Personnel Tea Tamils Visa cases Diego Garcia Relations Saigon, Vietnam; Consular Officer 1969-1970 Visa applicants US military Security Environment CORDS Fraternization issues Size of Embassy Adoptions Work anecdotes US presence (size) State Department; Operations Center 1971-1973 1 Divisions of Center Duties Secretary’s Middle East visit Overseas travel assignments Jerry Bremer Henry Kissinger Geographic Bureaus Staff Personnel State Department; FSI; Economic study 1974 Female marriage issue Course substance Commerce Dept. Export Seminar Tehran, Iran; Economic/Commercial Officer 1974-1978 Embassy staff Ambassador Richard Helms Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) Oil price rise Work load National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC) Influx of US businessmen Environment Iran housing market Local business culture Secret Police (SAVAK) Joint Ventures Local Business practices European businessmen Military Assistance Group (MAG) Social classes Worldwide political developments Shah’s future Tudeh Party State Department; Phoenix Program 1978 Vietnamese refugees and boat people Goals of the organization Operations London, England; Commercial Officer 1978-1981 Environment Mrs. Thatcher British culture Status of women 2 American Ambassadors Economy Commerce Department The National War College 1981-1982 Course content Comments Composition of student body State Department; Office of North African Affairs 1982-1985 Maghrebian Affairs Morocco Vernon Reid King of Morocco Polisario Libya Algeria-Morocco relations Economic Support Funds National Security Studies Morocco coup attempts Euro controls Brussels, Belgium 1985-1988 Economic Support Funds Operations Environment issues Reporting Economic Trends Report Future of the European Union Environment Walloon-Flemish divide Grievance filing State Department; Special Trade Activities, Economic Bureau 1988-1990 European Union Trade Requirements of GATT Trade Legislation Operations Trade negotiations US relations with the European Union Reports Human Rights State Department; Office of Career Development and Assignments 1990-1993 Operations 3 Organization Bidding process Tandem assignments Family issues Handicap issues Lawsuits Assignment problems Grievance process Women’s issues Geographic specialty issues Training Influence of top echelon DCM Committee Factors noted in assignment process Rating personnel performance Brussels, Belgium; Deputy Chief of Mission 1993-1997 151-191 Ambassador Allen Blinken Political environment Mission organization American business community Personnel Presidential visits Walloons and Flemish divide African nation problems Immigrants Former Yugoslavia Germany Belgium’s relations with neighbors Relations with government Environment Military Benelux Jewish assets NATO The French Iraq European nations’ individual interests USIS/Commerce cooperation Libya Inspection Ambassador to Djibouti; 1992-2000 Ambassadorial Seminar (FSI) 4 Background history French presence Clans Government Embassy organization Environment American community Joint military forces Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) Language Chinese Culture Diplomatic Corps French presence Relations with neighbors Eritrea Mengistu EGAT (Regional organization_ Eritrea/Ethiopia dispute Embassy security Past US Assistance Non Government Organizations Greater Horn of Africa Initiative (GHI) United Nations Agencies USAID Famine Early Warning System (FEWS)Ship refueling contract USS Cole attack Djibouti airport Elections Somalia reconciliation Djibouti port agreement INTERVIEW [Note: This interview was not edited by Ambassador Schermerhorn] Q: I might say that Lange and I are old friends. Lange, starting at the beginning, can you tell me when and where you were born, and something about your family? SCHERMERHORN: I was born in September, 1939, a war baby, as it were, in northern New Jersey. My parents at that point were living in a town called Florham Park, which is near Morristown, the county seat of Morris County, New Jersey – about thirty-five miles from New York City on a railroad line. In those days it was basically country, ex-urban; 5 now it’s very much suburban and built up. When my parents moved there in the early ‘30s, you could walk out your back door and flush pheasants and things like that. My father was a stockbroker, my mother did not have a job outside the home, a paying job, but she was very active in community affairs, local politics, etc. She had a lot of executive ability and had to find an outlet for it. I had one older brother, twelve-and-a- half years older. Q: The name Schermerhorn I have…it’s Schermerhorn. SCHERMERHORN: Yes, you have to guard it like a good Dutchman. Schermerhorn. [laughs] Q: It’s a name that one sees quite a bit in New York society type things or Philadelphia – I’m not sure. But it’s a name that’s been around for a long time, or has it? SCHERMERHORN: Well I wouldn’t say New York society, but it goes back to when New York was New Amsterdam. I’m twelfth generation, so my paternal ancestor came in 1642 and he had three sons. The old horse thief, he must’ve been. [laughs] One who went up to Schenectady – Fort Orange as it was in those days. And that’s the prolific branch from which most people with that name are descended. One stayed in Manhattan and that branch has pretty much died out now, and then another one is in the mid-Hudson Valley and that branch has pretty much died out too. But my grandfather came to New Jersey. He was born in 1860. He went to Union College in Schenectady and then began to work with someone who was an inventor and had a laboratory there and had a number of backers in that area. The inventor had been somewhat of a gadfly; he had moved around from Ohio to Bridgeport, Connecticut to outside of Boston, and then to Schenectady. But then he made what turned out to be the last move to New Jersey and my father went with him on the business side and that fellow’s name was Thomas Edison. And his backers with whom he had quarreled in Schenectady stayed behind and that became General Electric. Q: Where did your father go to college? SCHERMERHORN: He went to Lafayette. Q: What was your mother’s family’s background? SCHERMERHORN: She was fourth generation. Her mother was French descent – actually I have two French grandmothers – and her father was German. Q: Did she go to college? SCHERMERHORN: No, she went to a secretarial, finishing school. Whatever you’d call it. Q: Katy Gibbs type thing. 6 SCHERMERHORN: In the ‘20s. But she had worked in the ‘20s in New York in an advertising agency. She had an interesting career. As I said, she had a lot of executive ability. Q: The ad business was a great place for young women in New York to show their stuff at that time. SCHERMERHORN: Actually the most interesting woman in my family was my grandmother, my father’s mother. She was from a town in upstate New York, three miles from the Canadian border. A town with a French name, Chateaugay, and she was French. In 1837 when Victoria came to the throne in England that was a time when the French in Quebec decided they could make a little mischief and maybe try to secede. There was something called the Papineau Rebellion. It was actually put down by the crown and the people who were involved in it, the participants, were proscribed. And so my grandmother’s grandfather fled across the border into New York, as did a number of them. But of course there are a lot of French Canadians in that part of the world too. But she was a very intelligent and ambitious woman. She went to what in those days they called normal schools, and then taught school. But she graduated at fifteen or something like that and then she somehow found her way to New York and she worked for a magazine called Frank Leslie’s Weekly and she got into that. Q: Oh yes. SCHERMERHORN: And I don’t know how she met my grandfather, but they did and he was a bachelor until he was in his late thirties and she was about ten years younger. Q: Did your family live in New Jersey more or less from the time you were born, on? SCHERMERHORN: Yes. Q: How about elementary school? SCHERMERHORN: [laughs] I went to elementary school in my little town of Florham Park. It was a beautiful, beautiful building built in the 1930s by the WPA (Work Projects Administration). It was one of these wonderful…it was quite an imposing building actually. I remember distinctly each one of my teachers from kindergarten through eighth grade. I mean I still remember their names and I can picture them. I think it’s something we’ve lost in the states today. We don’t have those dedicated. Most of them were women but there were a couple of men teachers, too. Q: I always like to immortalize a few names. You know, I mean it’s only fair. What the hell? [laughs] Can you name any that were particularly influential as far as you were concerned? 7 SCHERMERHORN: Well I remember the kindergarten teacher, Katherine Martinay. I remember that because in our rest period she used to read to us from Kipling from the Just So stories. And Mrs. Adamson, the first grade teacher. But the one I remember the most was the third grade teacher, Gladys Stanton. I remember her because she had us embark on a project. What she did all year long was talk to the third graders and have us do little projects about the age of discovery. In third grade. Now this is Magellan and round the world, and Talbot and all these things. I think my interest in geography, foreign affairs, the world outside America, really was piqued by her. And this was quite ambitious; I don’t think in third grade maybe now they do that as much. Q: How about as a small child growing up, what was life like at home? Were affairs talked about over the dinner table? Was this a political family? How would you characterize it? SCHERMERHORN: I wouldn’t say political in a sense of foreign policy, but as I said, my mother was interested in local politics and my father was on the Board of Health and the Planning Board and did that kind of thing. This was a very small town, but you know, not everybody contributed. We always had newspapers in the house. I started reading when I was very young. I think the other thing that made a great impression on me was we got National Geographic and Life magazine, and of course having been born in 1939, I began to look at those when I was four- and five-years-old and there were all the stories about the war. Particularly in Life you had all the things. So it was always knowing; talking about it and being interested in that kind of thing was part of my first impressions. Q: You mentioned your teacher in third grade and the age of discovery. Did maps and this sort of thing have a fascination? SCHERMERHORN: Oh yes, because the National Geographic always came with maps. My mother finally said we had to get rid of the magazines, but I still have the maps. [laughs] Q: Well they now come on a CD with all the National Geographic. It’s not quite as good but I have it with all six or seven CDs. How about reading, were you a reader? SCHERMERHORN: Yes, I was a reader. My father is a reader, my mother somewhat but not as much. All my father’s family were readers. You know, we went to the library every week or a couple of times a week. Q: Was it a Carnegie Library? SCHERMERHORN: Well it was in the town called Madison, which is three miles away. Our town didn’t have one. It was a wonderful library in one of these buildings built, 8 Carnegie, and the librarians were these very erudite women. I remember one summer later, when I was ten or eleven, deciding…I had read The Count of Monte Cristo and then I discovered in the library that Dumas had actually written a whole bookshelf of things which actually details French history if you read them all. The popular ones were The Count of Monte Cristo and The Three Musketeers. But I remember trying to get through a lot of those. We read, we listened to the radio because this was before most people had television anyway, and we played outdoors all the time. Q: Were there any particular sports that you were interested in? SCHERMERHORN: Well, everybody played sandlot baseball, or whatever you want to call it, and in the winter we went ice skating because we had a pond not too far away. Actually, we were situated between two golf courses, one was a private golf course and one was public – each about two miles away. Well, one was closer and one was about a mile away. But one in particular was very flat because we were in a part of New Jersey which is verging on marsh actually, the Passaic River, and so along the golf course it was very shallow. It would flood and then freeze and we could skate for a long, long time, and toboggan and things like that. My brother was always very athletic and I was always tagging along after. I was the little pain in the neck who tagged after. [laughs] There weren’t that many children my age; there were some who were older. I was a little tomboy because most of them were little boys. Q: By the time you got to high school, where did you go to high school? SCHERMERHORN: Well, grade school. We didn’t have a high school, the town wasn’t big enough. We were sending district to the high school in Madison which is a suburb of Morris. If you know the geography of northern New Jersey, you go out from New York and you go to the Oranges and then you have Summit which is a fairly large town and Short Hills is one of its satellites. And Chatham and then Madison and then Condit Station and Morristown and Bernardsville and you go on. So we went to Madison High School. Q: You were at the high school from when to when? SCHERMERHORN: 1953 to ’57. Q: How was the high school? SCHERMERHORN: Well it was considered a good high school but it was an interesting mix of people because there was another town slightly further away called Hanover which was also a sending district. And this was still, forty or fifty years ago, a lot of small farms. I mean that’s all gone now. And so there were sort of farm people and people who weren’t probably college material. On the other hand, in my brother’s high school class was Alison Shockley, the daughter of William Shockley, Nobel Prize winner. And the reason you had that, you had the Bell Laboratories in that part of New Jersey and you had 9 a lot of people from there. And Drew University is in Madison. So you had quite a mix of people. I mean we had a chapter of the Future Farmers of America. Q: Did farming ever attract you? [laughs] SCHERMERHORN: No, this wasn’t my…but, you know, we used to have turkey shoots and go skeet shooting too. It was an interesting mix. But they sent people to very good colleges. In my time only about half the student body was doing the college preparatory thing. Q: What type of courses were you taking and which ones appealed to you the most? SCHERMERHORN: They still offered Latin in those days and I took Latin. The prescribed things: algebra, Latin, English, history. Then I took two years of Latin and three years of French. Q: Were you picking up any French from your family? SCHERMERHORN: No. My grandmother spoke very good French, not French Canadian. And my grandparents, a few months after my father was born in 1905, they went and lived in London for five years but went often to the continent because my grandfather was the European representative of Edison Industries there. Q: How about in high school, any extra-curricular activities? SCHERMERHORN: Oh yes, I did sports. We played field hockey, and basketball and volleyball in the winter, and we did archery in the spring. Now most of the people in the class had started out in kindergarten together. Since we were from a different place, you know, there were like twenty people in my grade school class that went there. And of course my brother had been there before me and he was a very prominent athlete – but he was already out of high school by the time I got there. I became, or maybe what I guess are my natural inclinations emerged, because at the end of our freshman year when we had our election for the class president, I was elected for the next two years and then I was the student body president among other things, which was unusual because I was a girl and this was the 1950s and this was a co-ed high school. Q: And also you weren’t part of the clique. SCHERMERHORN: Well no, but that was why one could… Q: Let them split their votes or something. SCHERMERHORN: I actually was a bit of an entrepreneur; when I ran for student body president I decided I would run on a platform that we needed a foreign student in the school. Now this was 1956 and the American Field Service and these other groups were 10

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