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Thursday, December 27, 2012
OPEN LETTER TO CLAYTON HANNA, GERMAINE TRUST

OPEN LETTER TO CLAYTON HANNA

ADMINISTRATOR, ST GERMAINE TRUST

On or about November 10, 2012 some of us read a short notice on the
NESARA website inviting us to apply for a 'grant' from the St Germaine
Trust. Readers were instructed to send an email to you personally and
to include information such as our name, address, phone, email address
and the reason(s) why we were applying for the grant. These were the
This invitation to apply
only instructions given. Nothing else.
for a grant was only on the website for a day or two.

Recently another post was on the NESARA website to complete a 'grant
application' for receipt of funds, again from the St Germaine
Trust. Unlike the application on November 10th, which was done via an
email to you direct, this application was to be completed on a website
host, 'surveymonkey.com.' This invitation to apply was on or about
December 23 and 24, 2012 and it is still posted on the NESARA website.

Some of us who had applied on or around Nov 10th via an email also
applied on Dec 23 or 24, as we did not know if these were applications
for two different 'grants' under the St Germaine Trust, or if both are
applications for the exact same 'grant.'

Some of us are acquainted with a woman who claims to have the
information on all those who have applied for funds from the Trust. She
says that she is working for you processing the applications for the St
Germaine Trust. This woman states that the applications made at
surveymonkey.com website are going to her
the
direct.

Some of us were told by this woman that if our names showed up more
than once for having applied to receive funds from the St Germaine
Trust, that we would be considered as 'double dipping,' and our names
would be removed and we would not receive any funds from the Trust.
In our search for more information on the Trust and how it is supposed to
be distributed and when, we cannot seem to find any
information that breaks down as to whether there are numerous
different 'grants' to be funded (perhaps under various different names)
or if it is just one grant.

We would like to ask you to consider clarifying these questions for
us. Most of us would not think to 'double dip' and, should our applying
for the above two 'grants' be considered as that, then we would
respectfully request that one of those applications be simply deleted.

Thank you, Mr. Hanna, for your time and consideration.

Posted by John MacHaffie at 9:49 PM
25 comments:
1.
AnonymousDecember 27, 2012 at 10:26 PM
I was one of those who applied twice, not because I wanted to double dipped
but because the whole thing was confusing, also, the monkey website was
asking for a donation so I was skeptical about the veracity of the whole thing
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2.
skyblissDecember 27, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Wow, I never thought about that catch as double applying.
When I was reading it first time in November, it looked so real.
Mr. Hanna, you should think about us here way better, lol...
skybliss
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3.
AnonymousDecember 27, 2012 at 10:59 PM
In all honesty, I never had any sort of confirmation letting me know if my
application had been received. Numerous people were claiming to have gotten
a phone call. Since I had no confirmation that my application had been received
or had not received a phone call, I figured I had missed the original cutoff time.
When it was replayed I applied again. I had no intention of double dipping. I was
just in a financial crisis and wanted to make sure I was included. I am sure
many other people were as desperate as I was. I hope this can be resolved
without hurting people who are in need. Thank you for your consideration.
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4.
mustangDecember 27, 2012 at 11:23 PM
Anybody who has ever worked accounts receivable knows duplicate payments
kick out and are rejected, so what's the big deal? Only process one,kick the
others out as duplicates. Computers were doing this 35 years ago and this is a
problem?
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5.
AnonymousDecember 28, 2012 at 12:13 AM
I applied in November, but I thought the Application for December was for an
updated application so I filled it out. I was not trying to apply twice for the
same grant. The instructions were not very clear. Please do not remove our
names.
Thank You,
Michaela Q.
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6.
AnonymousDecember 28, 2012 at 3:48 AM
Also, for those who mistakenly applied again for another member of the same
household (one grant per household), simply deleting records with duplicate
addresses would solve all of these issues (both duplicate names & duplicate
addresses).
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7.
AnonymousDecember 28, 2012 at 3:59 AM
As a co-worker with the spiritual entities that are attempting to resolve many
issues, the non responsiveness of individuals who have claimed responsiblity for
certain active projects is both regretable and disheartening.
If the active managers of any project continue to dishonor their duty to
maintain communication to those that were requested to initiate contact, then
please remember that the Creator has arranged for specific entities to dispense
Karmic decisions to those who refuse to perform in accordance with their
voluntarily chosen request to undertake an assignment.
In short, Do All That you Promise To Do, else do not contract or obligate
yourself.
Some say this is the essense of the Spiritual LAW, yet, although an important
fragment, it is merely a true component within the whole.
Please do all that you are permitted to do.
DE
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8.
AnonymousDecember 28, 2012 at 9:25 AM
Double dipping? never thought of doing that. I did appled 2 times because the
first time the page went off before I finished. so I redone it.
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9.
AnonymousDecember 28, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Maybe you guys need to do a background search on Clayton Hanna along with
the surveymonkey website.
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10.
AnonymousDecember 28, 2012 at 10:06 AM
I don't know of anyone who received a response from the first submission. You
would have to think that it wasn't received. The only reason tens of thousand
submitted again is because they didn't receive a response like a few others did.
Are those tens of thousands all booted ?
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11.
AnonymousDecember 28, 2012 at 10:09 AM
A simple auto-responder would have sufficed to tell everyone that their form
has been received and then no one would have submitted more than once.
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12.
dc mannDecember 28, 2012 at 10:57 AM
I filled out the most recent one, for the u.s. that is and had no problems once
submitted.
I have heard that if ya dont get an email or call it is a good thing being that
there wasnt a problem with the filling out of the application. I feel as though
one wouldnt be dismissed from the app. if 2 were received, Just delete one! :)
Of course, time will tell.
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13.
AnonymousDecember 28, 2012 at 11:01 AM
I also applied on Surveymokey, I never got a phone call or email. How long am I
expected to wait. With no confirmation what so ever, I am starting to feel this
is all dis information, they were trolling for our info. Now i wonder what list my
name is on. Was it all just a scam to get our details for to put that info on a list.
December is almost over, I thought it was suppose to be released before
Christmas, well nothing has come of my application. We we all duped again?
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14.
[email protected] 28, 2012 at 11:49 AM
I wish to be able to provide for my family, my fiance, my daughter, my mother
my father, my brothers, my ailing relatives and all of those that I hold dear to
my heart. I also wish to be able to mentor to those who are in need of help in a
fashion that includes hunting,fishing,camping,and most of all GOD. I was
fortunate to grow up with these basic things which have sustained me. If only I
had the ways and means,I would make this world a little better. If you could
grant me this wish, I would give my heart and sole for the betterment of this
world. A fishing camp on the coast and a hunting camp out in hill country and
nothing better than to die with a smile on my face , just knowing that I made a
difference.
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15.
AnonymousDecember 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM
I contacted Clayton Hanna at the email address he gave us regarding the
application process. He never replied. Hmm. Considering the most recent post
regarding the St.Germaine Trust (i.e. "Change is on the Horizon"), apparently
this is under control of all the uber wealthy anyway who want to kill and
control us. And now they know who and where we are. This whole process has
seemed to be a little too elusive and confusing. Seems like setting up an actual
web site with FAQ's along with the application process would have been the
prudent thing to do--at least that's what a ligitimate organization would do.
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16.
Peter BollingerDecember 28, 2012 at 12:58 PM
I applied as well not knowing the difference.
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17.
dc mannDecember 28, 2012 at 1:47 PM
You are not suppose to get an email or call as I understand it, That happens
only if there were corrections to be made on the app. itself. I really do not
thing John M. would of posted the Germain app. if he thought for one second it
was b.s. I know it is very hard in the waiting, hang in there folks! :)

P.S. "They" Dont need your info. "They" know who you are and all about you
already.
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18.
AnonymousDecember 28, 2012 at 3:56 PM
I sent in My app. to Hanna and received an E/mail response. I was pleased with
the content of that E/mail.
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Replies
1.
AnonymousDecember 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Since you received an email response, can you not share
something of its contents to ease and appease the minds of the
rest of us? Was this from Clayton himself, or someone representing
Clayton? Did you request a response? Why do you suppose you
received an email response and the rest of us did not? Will you
share with us what 'pleased' you about that email's content? I'm
sure any of the rest of us who would have volunteered such
information as you have about having received a response would
be more than willing to share such information with others rather
than making such a slight reference, considering everyone's
concern here. Thanks.
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19.
AnonymousDecember 28, 2012 at 4:16 PM
Does anybody at Nesara New & Forums know this Clayton Hanna guy? I always
thought the informatin on this site was clean and "vetted." I too applied twice,
because I thought Clayton had "lost" some of the information on his server. As
previous writer above stated, a simple "auto responder" would have saved all
this drama, because people need to know their emails have been
"acknowledged!" Then, no need for people to panic, because someone was not
professional enough to let them know that their application was received. This
is truly unbelievable; and then too, a computer should be able to kick out a
duplicate application. No one should be kicked out, because no one here was
trying to "double dip." That is purely wrong thinking, and this needs to be
ADDRESSED immediately and assure everyone that everything is o.k.
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20.
AnonymousDecember 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM
just a note, I received an email from Mr. Clayton encouraging me to resend the
grant application on the surveymonkey web site in order to expedite the
process of the application.
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21.
sdlralfusDecember 29, 2012 at 5:03 PM
I applied In Nov with no response, then again when I heard of it "opening" on
Dec 21st. I got a response back that day saying "go to survey monkey site. I was
having issues submitting my "survey", so I emailed Clayton letting him know I
could not submit my Application. I received a response back the very next day
(Dec.22) about one of the fields being corrected. I was surprised to get such a
quick response back....but nothing since....

From: Clayton ZHanna
To:;
Subject: Re: Grants, c/o Clayton Hanna
Sent: Sat, Dec 22, 2012 5:42:04 AM

One of the fields was fixed. Please try it again and make sure every question
has an answer.

From:
To: Clayton ZHanna
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Grants, c/o Clayton Hanna

Good Afternoon. I went to the link and answered the 3 questions on the screen.
But when I go to submit the information, a red line saying " This question
requires an answer." pops up on the top.
Please help if you can.
Thank You.
-me-
From: Clayton ZHanna
To:
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: Grants, c/o Clayton Hanna

Thank you for your Grant Application. Our application procedures have
changed, to expedite processing. Please go to the following links to submit your
application-
USA: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/7TYL3Q7

INTERNATIONAL: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/7PVSJW8

Thank you for your cooperation, and apologies for any inconvenience.

Grant Facilitator
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22.
AnonymousJanuary 15, 2013 at 2:33 AM
My name is Clayton Hanna. I am writing to to dispel all the rumors and miss-
information and confusion about this grant program.
Someone who volunteered to help to process the thousands of grant requests
told me to set up on Survey Monkey to process requests faster, which did not
work. She told people that duplicate requests would get people deleted - not
true. The duplicate only would be deleted.
On January 7th,2013 the Grant Program Administrator closed the program
because the government had not released the necessary funds. As of today the
funds are not released, but should be released "soon".
The Administrator also said it was their intention to re-open the grant program
later this year, but not until the funds were in the bank.
First - this grant program is real , but is NOT connected to any of the 77 other
"prosperity" programs. I believe the NESARA farm claims program is one of
those.
Nobody asked for permission to post this program on any site.
Yes many people are upset, and that is understandable. I have answered
hundreds of emails from people inquiring as to when the grants will be sent
out. I do not know. The grants will be sent out SAP after the funds are released.
The grant organization has to pay the taxes on every grant BEFORE the grants
can be paid. The grant packages will be delivered by courier.
Originally the grant organization said only one grant per household would be
accepted. A law was passed in Hawaii allowing numerous people to live in a
single household because of the limited amount of space and housing on the
Hawaiian Islands. a similar problem exists in Canada, the USA and many other
countries. Numerous people in a single address can all request a grant.
Grant requests are being processed as quickly as possible. I do not have time to
reply to all the web sites carrying miss-information about this grant program to
correct the incorrect information people have.
An auto-responder system was not established by myself as I do not know how
to do that.
The grant organization did not set up a web site because if they told anyone the
amount of the grant, or when it would be sent out, that is considered an