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S. first classpostage and Canada Chasmosaurus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Hore . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .14 $45 South of the border & across the Atlantic Metal Sculptor Raymond Marks . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .18 $50 Across the Pacific Dinosaur Gallery Live . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .19 Publisher/Editor:Mike Fredericks How to Draw Dinosaurs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Ford . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .20 145 Bayline Circle, Folsom, Ca 95630-8077 (916) 985-7986 between 8-5 PST M-F Collectors Corner . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Fredericks . . . . . . . . . . . . . .25 business hours only please. Dinosaur Collector . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Knol . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . 26 FAX (916) 985-2481 [email protected] The PT Interview: John Gurche . . . . . . . . . .Fredericks . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28 www.prehistorictimes.com What’s New in Review . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Fredericks. . . . . . . . . . . . . .34 Don’t forget PT is also available as an app for your phone or computer Moa/Bullockornis . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Hore . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .38 Advertising: Giant Dinos Invade Chicagoland . . . . . . . . .Debus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .42 Full page - $150 b&w - $400 color; Paleonews . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .49 1/2 pg - $100 b&w - $300 color; MPC . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Schaefer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .50 1/4 pg - $75 b&w - $200 color Reader Art . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .53 Mesozoic Media . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Fredericks . . . . . . . . . . . . . .54 PT logo by William Stout Redone above by Thomas Miller 50 Years of Deaton Dinoramas . . . . . . . . . . .Telleria . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .56 Front cover graphic design by Juan Carlos Dino Shows Are Back . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Jones . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .58 Alonso 4 Prehistoric Times No. 109 SPRING 2014 FROM THE EDITOR John Gurche’s lifelike hominin busts for the Once completed, the 2014 marks the 50 31,000-square-foot hall Smithsonian Institution’s David H Koch Hall of year anniversary of will have a new center- Human Origins exhibit as described in his new book the Sinclair piece: the Wankel T. rex, Welcome to PT109 (not to be con- dinosaur exhibit at “Shaping Humanity.” one of the most complete fused with the famous patrol boat that the 1964/65 New Tyrannosaurus rex John F Kennedy commanded during York Worlds Fair skeletons ever unearthed. world war 2.) Spring has sprung The beautiful Deaton dio- which is very good news to the east- rama discussed in Robert ern U.S. where snow storms got pret- Telleria’s article is being ty crazy. Out here in California, it permanently removed and feels like Spring was here all Winter a new mural or diorama is long; I’m not complaining. unlikely despite 50 artists Modelers and readers of PT cer- calling the museum offer- tainly know the name Shane Foulkes. ing to solicit their tal- Shane’s Chasmosaurus sculpture is ents...I certainly hope the on our front cover plus we have a new renovation is worth a five interview with Shane inside. Shane year wait. has long been a part of this magazine, We were sorry to hear first showing his illustrations here that sculptor Mike Jones before beginning to sculpt. When I passed away recently. heard that his models have never been Mike created a number of on the front cover, I couldn’t believe nice dinosaur sculptures for modelers over the years. we had made such an oversight and MOVING?? PLEASElet us know your new address the decided to rectify that error immedi- Ricardo Delgado, Bob Morales and second you plan to move. I am continually amazed by sub- ately. I interviewed Shane in this magazine long ago (plus Manny Macedo at the Creature Features scribers who move and never bother to let us know. The just about every other sculptor) so I asked Dan Liebman, Dino Gallery Live in Burbank, Ca magazine is NOT forwarded and it costs us to resend the owner of dansdinosaurs.com to interview Shane instead. magazine later to your new “digs.” Dan has his finger on the pulse of new dinosaur products Also if you subscribed to PT by sending your payment which he sells at his site, has hired Shane to create special anywhere except directly to us, please know that we only models for his company and gives fresh insight with his received a paltry percentage of that payment. The people questions. Shane’s answers are very forthright and infor- you sent the payment to get the lion’s share of it. When you mative and I’m sure you will enjoy his words almost as (hopefully) renew your subscription PLEASE do it by much as the photos of his beautiful models. Front cover sending your payment directly to us. We are a very small and interview layout by JC Alonso. business and could really use your support. Thanks so I’m also very excited to have world famous and extreme- much. ly talented artist John Gurche back in PT again. John ARTISTS!PT does not pay for submissions but many has an absolutely amazing new book out titled artists whose work is seen in Prehistoric Times get paying “Shaping Humanity” that shows how he created 15 The full Chasmosaurus model as seen on our work from other sources. Please send jpg files of your art- sculptures for the Smithsonian of most of the front cover, sculpted by Shane Foulkes work scanned at 300 DPI resolution. Send as an approx 4” hominin species that we have found so far. I inter- jpg with your name in the title of the image--example-- view John inside and show examples of much of this Triceratops by John Smith.jpg to our e-mail address or work. After you read my interview, go buy the book send good copies (that you don’t need returned and that (reviewed inside too). I guarantee you will love it. aren’t larger than our 9 x 12 scanner bed) to our mailing We feature Chasmosaurusthis issue. I had started address in California. We need your art and info. For #110 to do my own illustration of this awesome dinosaur Diabloceratops & Titanoboa/giant snakes (June 10. but quickly decided, what’s the point when so many 2014) For #111 Baryonyx & Thylacosmilus(Sep 10 2014) amazing illustrations are coming in from so many Apatosaurus & Liopleurodon (Dec 10, 2014) talented artists already. We also feature Moa and Ankylosaurus & Glyptodon & Archelon (Mar 10, 2015) Bullockornis. Again our very talented writer Phil Thank you! Hore has done his usual smash-up job of covering all of these animals. Our Tracy Ford also talks about the difference between Chasmosaurusspecies so we have that pretty well covered in this issue. Allen Debus has written a very special article about the life-sized prehistoric animals at the Chicago Worlds Fair of the 1930s. Part two will appear next issue. Lucky Randy Knol (I’m so jealous or #mejealous) was at the annual Toy Fair event in New York City and describes what he saw there. Bob Morales sent us numerous pho- adtTSoliecsnslho loahe sfereaeif auaft eorttu reop rlksellwsa a yatit sht vceeaeht srsef ytusao nnngr ydiedc aoieornf sfio f nSfestrmraeosurim vrtih ni eedsfvwooeerns nmcwiatr aiinitbtn hiMio nGBngu u asyMrreobyuuaa mOr nxs kwi amd,r eitCpnnislsoayt sa Ntachnuaoadrnrt mEnpwolraaietncy f ssNBihentoeadsara eltra o dDnw mydeiweatahsnthco eyrwnrio,beh uw ione. hlgsRsi telMaoe.rb WrPPeeaCrdett WFCIEOFADTLREELE SETNICHG TEDN MTISFH FPNEEROMROW EAU!NL DLTL!Y! in all of the great “Dinosaurs” videos of the 1980s written by Richard Jones who pro- duced them. We thank Joshua Ballze for helping us get this for this issue. And yet, all of that only scratches the surface of all the goodies in another jam-packed issue. I thank all of these talented writers and everyone else that wrote and sent art and infor- A d tmwaetniotyn ytoe amrsa koef pthriosd auncointhge Pr Tg raenadt iIs sSuTeI. LI LR EabAsLolLuYte lmy elaonv et hdaot.i nIgt hita.s I b aemen v meroyr ea wthaarne design athgaati nit. could not happen without all of you contributing and just reading it, so thanks by M WoWrlhdes nF Ia iwr aws aas kinid ,t omwyn f aamndil yI vwisaist etdh rNilelewd Ytoor kse Ce ittyh.e Itl ijfues-st iszoe dh adpinpoesnaeudr st haatt tthhee ichael S ASinnncilvaeirr sOairly E oxfh tihbeit .N TYhe W yeoarrl dw’sa sF a1i9r.6 Y4 easn, dI If meeel nvteiorny tohlids. b1e9c6a4u swe a2s0 1a4 g irse tahte y 5e0a ry efoarr tevens many other things now celebrating their 50 year anniversary like the arrival of the Beatles in the US and the introduction of the Ford Mustang. Read a great article about artist Charles R Knight at this site: http://underpaintings.blogspot.com/2014/03/words-of-wisdom-charles-r-knight.html The Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History’s dinosaur hall will close April 28 for a $48 million makeover. Most of the specimens won’t reappear until 2019, when the Fossil Hall at the world’s second-most-visited museum is reopened. Prehistoric Times No. 109 SPRING 2014 5 MMEESSOOZZOOIICC Last issue we asked PT readers to come up with funny cap- tions based upon the photo on the left. The winner: “We haven't had a dinosaur since the last one tried to eat our milk cow.” Sam Mueller of Sheridan, Wyoming won a PT subscription MM AA II LL than once when I was trying to track down the actual year when a particular discovery came out. Each issue is an excellent balance of art, collector sharing and scien- tific information, and as always is just plain fun to read. --Mark Hallett, Dallas , OR Dear Mike, Greetings from Wyoming. Your publication just continues to go from strength to strength and I look forward to every issue. I do Hi Mike, I just finished reading the new PT and really appreci- feel that I must correct a bit of ate the space and very nice layout you made for my dinosaur misinformation that appeared stamps feature as well as my other artwork in the magazine.. I was in the last issue, however. In naturally interested to see how James Gurney tackled his assign- his interview, sculptor Bob ment…I don’t think there was so much cloak and dagger stuff Morales states that the Theory there - I didn't tell my family about it until after the first 12 months! of Evolution is no less reli- I must have seen David Krentz’s work (Walking with Dinosaurs gious or theologically based 3D) on the sides of some of the double-decker buses over than belief in Creationism. here…...there were ads everywhere promoting the movie last year This simply isn’t so. Like any up to Christmas and the museum had a major tie-in. I didn't get to other scientific theory, evolu- see the movie but saw ads here and there. Amazing images…This tion is accepted not on faith, is a recent drawing of a baby Ichthyosaur [communis] - drawn from © John Sibbick but rather because it is sup- a prepared fossil found in Dorset on the south coast; part of a series www.johnsibbick.com ported by hypotheses that have of studies I've been doing over the last few years..Of course -it is a been tested and confirmed. bit old school in composition but was designed for a small dinosaur exhibit Religious and theological beliefs - including Creationism - are not. in a farm along the south coast Isle of Wight. The painting shows a typical Creationists hardly ever suggest hypotheses that could be used to test their Lower Cretaceous scene with all the Wealden suspects. The bottom section model of paleontological history, and on the rare occasions that they have, of the scene is a little bare because, as it is displayed, it has scale models of their predictions have been soundly falsified. For example, if the creationist trees and a small 3D landscape in the front so the painting is seen through model were correct, we ought to have found cockles, mussels and scallops it. All the best, John Sibbick, Isle of Wight, England in the Burgess Shale, mastodons and rhinos in the Morrison Formation, and dromaeosaurs and ornithomimids in the White River Badlands. And yet, in 150 years of fossil dig- Fred Snyder made this great dinorama out of Got my new issue Mike! You've got to believe how much I look forward pinecones and plastic ferntops and modeling greenery. ging in the American to this, and how inspiring it is to see the excellent art and (drool) those mod- West, not one of these els. Three of the features I often enjoy most are Phil's featured article on a finds has ever turned up! given animal, Tracy's "How to Draw Dinosaurs" and "Dinosaur Meanwhile, the evolution- Paleontology: The Year In Review"-- this last has come to my rescue more ist model predicted that we would find birds with teeth, dinosaurs with © John Sibbick feathers, horses with toes, www.johnsibbick.com snakes with arms and whales with legs. And we have! Creationists will sometimes counter by pointing out that, say, Archaeopteryxwas not directly ancestral to modern birds, but they’re missing the point. If Evolution is bogus, how do evolu- tionists keep making such Mark Ryan displayed his dinosaur collection at the Minneapolis Library accurate predic- and it was enjoyed by all tions? Keep up the good work and best wishes for you and Prehistoric Times in this new year. Open sky! Russell J Hawley, Tate Geological M u s e u m , 6 Prehistoric Times No. 109 SPRING 2014 Casper College, Wyoming. Alex Klein paleo punks Thanks Russell, like yourself, Bob Morales has long been a friend of this publication and I never considered editing his com- ments in my interview with him even though I certainly realized Moa by Adam Lindholm Age 13 they were controversial. It is for that same reason that I am happy to run your letter as a rebuttal but this will be the end of it. A few years ago, Mesozoic Mail unfortunately became a forum for the evolution/creationist debate. It swiftly got to the point where PT readers begged me to drop it and move on - editor Hey, Got my issue and wow! Of course they are always top notch. I am doing a series of scrimshaw pieces I am offering for Xavier Berardesco sale to fund my Asbury Park Middle School D i n o s a u r E d u c a t i o n Program for C h i l d r e n ' s Hospitals and low income area schools. Here is Archaeopteryx etched into a piece of mammoth tusk Mr. Mason and Tyler Lanno present Mr. Wronko's bark. The bark is Cretaceous War Zone Project at the American Museum of sanded till a win- Natural History in New York City. dow of creamy ivory is exposed. It is then polished to a glass like finish. A drawing is made and then the lines are etched. The lines are filled with ink Dear PT, I happened to stumble across some Marx Prehistoric Times triv- to add the color. This project took 14 hours. It is ia: In the deleted scenes section of the Bonus features of the BluRay/DVD 2.5 x 1.5. Do you think readers would enjoy read- of the Dark Shadows movie, there is a scene where Johnny Depp is sitting ing about working with fossil ivory? There is on the floor talking to a kid, and spread around them are an assortment of Mammoth, Mastodon, and Fossil Walrus to be Marx Prehistoric Times dinosaur toy figures. What is unusual is that the fig- worked. Also, let me know if anyone would be ures are in an extra large scale, similar to the three classic Marx Flintstones interested in acquiring some of my work. Thanks, (Hunting Party) dinosaur figures. I guess they Don Meadows,by were custom made for the movie. Thanks, Steve Riojas and some George Sonoda, Arlington Hts., IL by Martin Garrett. Darn you George, you got me so interested, Author of OF ICE I had to go buy the BluRay myself. I paused AND STEEL and EPI- the picture and they are playing with a few TAPH torpe- regular sized Marx dinos, Aurora Prehistoric [email protected] Scenes models, an Invicta Plesiosaur, a Safari Very Nice work, Don, and I admire your Ltd Spinosaur, a stuffed pink Triceratops work for children. A number of PT readers and, like you said, eight huge Marx dinosaurs tell me that they use prehistoric animals in that appear to be perfect reproductions; just some way or another to help children’s chari- many times larger. I agree with you; probably ties. I love it. I show your e-mail here so people custom made for the film, but it’s a mystery. can get in touch with you-editor Oh, the magic of Hollywood - editor Above: The Paris Museum for the gallery of Paleontology and compara- tive anatomy Left: View of the gallery of vertebrates Right: French PT sub- scriber Jean-Marie Leonard sent us these photos from Paris, France. (seen here next to their Triceratops skull) Prehistoric Times No. 109 SPRING 2014 7 The PT DinoStore Vintage dinosaur collectibles for sale from PT magazine 1. “Dinosaur Collectibles” price guide co-written and signed by PT editor $49 18. hollow dinos 1. Collectibles 2. Linde 1950s Coffee Premium plastic dinosaur figs 7 from Austria. $12ea. book 3. Rare 8th Linde figure to complete above set: Rare Rhamphorhynchus $45 4. Marx orig. sm/med 50s/ 60s dinosaur toy figs (green, brown, gray) $5 5. Marx orig. Krono, T-rex (pot-belly or slender) $39, Brontosaurus $34 6. 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Sinclair chrome 1960s Mike Fredericks Linemar tiny tray 1960s Golden Prehistoric Times metal T. rex Funtime dino 145 Bayline Cir. trading Folsom, California 95630-8077 cards in book (916) 985-7986 30. Flash cards 31. Brooke Bond [email protected] 24. Nabisco dinos 22. 1960s salt & pepper 34. Lifelike 24. 1960s shakers w/ intertwined necks. 5” Neanderthal Japan long each. man model 26. 60’s Viewmaster 25. ROM plastic dinos 7. 6 inch Marx large cavemen 13. Left: Sinclair 1960s 16. Sinclair 1959 Oil hardback dino stamps & album 8 Prehistoric Times No. 109 SPRING 2014 10 Prehistoric Times No. 109 SPRING 2014